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From the procedure or from the tubes? Nearly 100% of my patients tell me after every procedure that the lidocaine was the worst part and they really appreciated me.
I think some people just really suck at their jobs. So if that's what happened, I'm sorry.
If it was just from the tubes, yeah that sucks. There's not much that can be done. We use 14 Fr but surgery uses 24 or 28 usually...The 14 is obviously better tolerated.
No friend, just having the tube between your ribs for a few days is insane. I watched the procedure, thanks fentanyl, and the doc jamming his finger in my intercostal. No problem there. Not sure what the fr is but guessing diameter. I had a large one in my side on my first, and a small one in my chest on my second pneumo.
I tried to go minimal on pain meds on the first one because I don’t do drugs anymore. Every breath hurt.
Yeah that was a surgically placed chest tube. It was probably 24 or 28 Fr. That's the diameter...Which is .3 mm per Fr so at least 7.2 mm. Which doesn't sound like a lot but as you know is huge when it's in your chest. Ours are half that size.
The second one might have been a 14.
I can place the larger ones. It's just not usually necessary.
when I was in nursing school I got to watch an emergency chest tube placement for a pneumo, they gave the guy fentanyl and versed before but he still screamed the entire time if I remember correctly lol
I went on a first aid course years ago and the guy running it was talking about using a stent and used this film as an example. First question to the group (I was the only guy in a group of 8) was "Anyone like George Clooney films?"
What gold bars are you referring to? Those are Weapons of Mass Destruction disguised as 12 KG gold bars. Rest assured they have been disposed of and freedom has been preserved.
“Listen…we will rise up together. Tell him. Rise up! Look at us! Many races.🤝. Many nations!👥. Tell him, Chief! United! George Bush, George Bush wants you.🫵”
“Wants you. Wants you! You! Wants everybody! George Bush wants you! Ha! Mehta(?)! Di(?)! Mehta Di! Fight for freedom on your own…and America will follow!! God Bless America! And God Bless a Free Iraq!! Now…what do you say my friend?”
You figure if gold's current market value is $4.3k per ounce... 12.4kg is 27.28lbs. Which makes each bar 436.48oz. Which makes each bar have $1,876,864 worth of gold. EACH. (It would be tough to run with about 3 of those in your pockets. So I'll just take 1. Maybe 2.)
I played Dead Money. I learned the importance of *
not holding onto material wealth and instead living for truly important things in life abusing the encumbrance mechanic to cheese reality into allowing me to walk away with every last gold bar, making me ridiculously wealthy for the rest of my days.
When you have stars on your uniform you no longer need to run. You walk in plain view of everyone and put them in your vehicle and have them loaded into your personal jet.
Some American generals are flown in their own corporate jets. They do whatever they want with stuff like that.
In 2003, gold ranged from $330-400 per ounce. That would put it in the $145k-175k range per bar, depending on exactly when during the year you're looking at.
There were 2 tons, we moved that ton and a half into the trucks. Then we drove that ton of gold to the fort. At the fort we counted all 1.8k lbs of it and stored it on pallets. That 800lbs of pallets sat there until all 400lbs of it were loaded onto a plane. Back state side we unload all 100lbs of Saddam Hussein's treasure into a vault. And there his solitary bar of gold sits, to this day.
Well you can rejoice in that the median US salary in gold is the same today (20 ounces) as in 1880. If you take average of every ten year period it has been 40 ounces per year in salary.
Damn I wish I was a gold bug like the guys in those crazy prepper shows used to be ten years ago.
I honestly just want one because it seems so fucking cool to just have a literal gold bar. Like, yeah, it’s valuable, but it’s just super cool to me for some reason.
Isn't it insane millions in poverty scraping by for a dollar and , and here is a pic of a man standing on some shiny rocks worth hundreds of millions of dollars
You have to consider how much overburden was removed and how little gold was in each truck load of gold ore that was dug out of ground and hauled to be processed.
Just like fish. The fish are free. You are paying for the lives (sometimes literally) of men spent going to get the fish for you.
No just infuriating if you have a soul or any sort of morality in the least.
But this is capitalist society so I mean HOARD ALL THE THINGS, CHARGE THE MOST, MAKE THE MOST MONEY, FUCK EVERYONE ELSE YES YES YES GO GO GO INFINITE GROWTH ISN'T INSANE AT ALL GIMME THOSE BARS
I feel stupid sometimes, because I felt like I’m respond to and arguing with a bot on Reddit. Like some replies I get don’t sound human. It’s like they ignore what was written in my comment and go on to explain things that don’t need to be explained or they try to rage bait saying I’m supporting things that I just argued against. I don’t know it’s like they’re getting outraged over one sentence and not bothered to read the rest of the paragraphs in my comment.
Okay, I understand military intervention to stop a dictator's aggression, but how is that any different from plundering Iraqi gold that actually belongs to the Iraqi people? And to publicly brag about it...
There is a very good reason why the "American Service-Members' Protection Act, " exists, it's a big fat fuck you from the USA to the rest of the world saying accusing US military or civilian members of war crimes and crimes against humanity is illegal.
Totally not because there is significant evidence that war crimes or crimes were committed, it's to prevent those evil children who's parents randomly died when US soldiers went door to door unloading bullets into homes because they were pissed that an IED went off and a marine got hurt.
Damn greedy children.
Seriously though , it's a sick and disgusting thing that has happen multiple times, and most Americans shove their head in the sand screaming "no, were the good guys, it's all a lie"
Look up Haditha massacre (and then maybe go down the rabbit hole of USA commited and mostly verified war crimes and crimes against humanity that was just shoved under the table by USA and their allies).
Well this comment is going to get negatively voted into hell , Americans aren't fans of facing the actions of their consequences.
Eh, it can go either way. In real life there is a lot of military worship and and banal nationalism, like military flyovers and "salute to service" moments at games to the pledge of allegiance at school or the national anthem before every single thing, and criticism of these elements is not very well tolerated. Criticizing American military adventures, centering foreign victims in Vietnam or Iraq or whatever, or suggesting the American military behaved badly is not well received. If only there were that unflinching support for education here.
I've said things like this before, and it got nuked hard.
Very interesting change of tone, either Echo chambers are getting stronger because I've left quite a few other news/politics subs becuase it was obvious how strong it was shifting (either for or against my values, not being challenged is fucking boring) or seeing someone like Trump being president (what should be the moral compass of a nation) and not in jail might have woken up some ppl.
Yup. Sadam tried to clear out the reserves and flee with the gold. The US secured it and returned it to the central bank of Iraq.
Sadam was straight up plundering Iraq his entire rule. Remember Sadam's golden AK and all the mansions and extravagant shit. That was stolen from the people of Iraq.
After Iraq was sanctioned by the UN in 1990, an exception was made that Iraq could sell oil to fund humanitarian programs. Sadam did use some of the money to give his people free education, food and electricity while he simultaneously took nearly $7B from the fund.
Golden AKs are actually relatively affordable (at least for a wealthy gun collector). It's just gold plating so most of the cost is just the labor involved. One company online offers the service for $3000.
The post states that the vehicles were intercepted, presumably trying to move the gold out of the country.
An article concerning the event is here, which claims the gold was intercepted travelling east, towards Iran, after the US government had already established occupation of Iraq. The article states that following assessment for the gold's purity, they would be sent to the Iraqi treasury, The article also states two days prior to the vehicle being intercepted a similar convoy carrying twice as much gold was intercepted on its way to the Syrian border.
tl;dr US Gov't did not steal thousands of bars of gold from the Iraqi people.
Actually the gold in these trucks were found at random by a US checkpoint driven by Iraqi drivers. All of the gold was given back to Iraqi government controlled funds.
The gold wasnt stolen. The story is Saddam’s son, cant remember which one, walked into a bank with a nite andleft with truck loads of gold during the final days of the war. This picture is the result of the American miltary being a lot faster than those trucks. US did a lot of bad there, but this isnt oneof them
It was taken from a dictator and reinvested into Iraq :) none of this gold was ever used by the US government. It was all made the property of the Iraqi democratic government.
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Boom, that's what I was looking for. Lung shot scene is still stuck in my mind from like childhood.
I remember watching that as a kid and kind of being grossed out. Now I put in chest tubes.
Same, also the Anaconda neck stent scene too. blech.
Also, ty for playing cleric/healer in life.
Had two chest tubes and swear I have a new pain threshold.
From the procedure or from the tubes? Nearly 100% of my patients tell me after every procedure that the lidocaine was the worst part and they really appreciated me.
I think some people just really suck at their jobs. So if that's what happened, I'm sorry.
If it was just from the tubes, yeah that sucks. There's not much that can be done. We use 14 Fr but surgery uses 24 or 28 usually...The 14 is obviously better tolerated.
No friend, just having the tube between your ribs for a few days is insane. I watched the procedure, thanks fentanyl, and the doc jamming his finger in my intercostal. No problem there. Not sure what the fr is but guessing diameter. I had a large one in my side on my first, and a small one in my chest on my second pneumo.
I tried to go minimal on pain meds on the first one because I don’t do drugs anymore. Every breath hurt.
Yeah that was a surgically placed chest tube. It was probably 24 or 28 Fr. That's the diameter...Which is .3 mm per Fr so at least 7.2 mm. Which doesn't sound like a lot but as you know is huge when it's in your chest. Ours are half that size.
The second one might have been a 14.
I can place the larger ones. It's just not usually necessary.
when I was in nursing school I got to watch an emergency chest tube placement for a pneumo, they gave the guy fentanyl and versed before but he still screamed the entire time if I remember correctly lol
I went on a first aid course years ago and the guy running it was talking about using a stent and used this film as an example. First question to the group (I was the only guy in a group of 8) was "Anyone like George Clooney films?"
Raises hand "I do".
"You mean like Batman Forever?"
rolls eyes "get out of my class"
Batman forever is Val Kilmer. I won’t have his legacy stolen.
😂
You mean like The Fantastic Mr. Fox?!?
I will always upvote Wes Anderson
My favorite part was they let a guy go, he shot at them later and looked at them like they'd again let him go, and then they shot him.
This and battlefield bad company
Lord I hated that scene
999 bars of gold is so much gold!
Yeah, what the hell are they doing with 998 gold bars?
Sheesh where will we put these 997 gold bars?
They will put those 996 gold bars in the back of a truck.
Hope the truck can carry all 995 gold bars
I want to believe that it will strat up with those 994 gold bars
What gold bars are you referring to? Those are Weapons of Mass Destruction disguised as 12 KG gold bars. Rest assured they have been disposed of and freedom has been preserved.
You mean 11 kg?
Let's count again, I only see 10.
We three kings be stealin the gold ….
“My friends all drive Porsches. I must make amends!”
I’m going to buy a set of Lexus convertibles in every color.
Lexus doesn't make convertibles!
Infinity only
“No Lexus convertible. Infiniti only.”
"Cannot give car."
“Listen…we will rise up together. Tell him. Rise up! Look at us! Many races.🤝. Many nations!👥. Tell him, Chief! United! George Bush, George Bush wants you.🫵”
George Bush?!
“Wants you. Wants you! You! Wants everybody! George Bush wants you! Ha! Mehta(?)! Di(?)! Mehta Di! Fight for freedom on your own…and America will follow!! God Bless America! And God Bless a Free Iraq!! Now…what do you say my friend?”
😄 Cannot take car.
I have literally never watched the movie but that quote is stuck in my head because of the sing-songy way he says it
Had to scroll wayyyy too far to find this. First thought that popped into my head
Kelly's Heroes has roughly the same plot and features Clint Eastwood and Donald Sutherland.
Also had don rickles
And Telly Savalas.
and Vincent Maracecchi, in his feature role “Old Man in Town”
This is my favorite WW2 movie. I love Donald Sutherland's hippie character.
Oddball? Drinking some wine, eating some cheese
WOOF!
(that's my other dog impression)
I always assumed it was a way to include anti-war/anti-vietnam war sentiment without it being too current.
I need a rewatch. Thanks for the reminder.
Michael. Jackson. King of pop.
Bullshit, my main man!
Hee Hee, Hoo Hoo.
Are you ready for the big bummer, bro?
Rewatched it recently, definitely holds up.
Exactly what came to mind.
Great movie btw!
Haha, exactly my first thought
Bouillon, you mean them little cubes you put in hot water to make soup?
My main man. Tell me something, okay? What is the problem with Michael Jackson?
Micheal Jackson is pop king of sick fucking country.
Hoo hoo, hee hee.
“No, not the little cubes you put in hot water to make soup.”
"Saddam is coming and he's pissed at you for letting him down. He's going to kill everyone!"
That scene was hilarious.
Phenomenal movie. It’s crazy to me that it’s never mentioned among war movie greats, it’s a spectacular film.
I’m not greedy. I just want one of those bars. Hell half would make my year or my life.
I'm greedy, where are my gold bars, I want all of it.
And those are probably full LBMA-style 12.4kg gold bars, worth about 1.7 million dollars each.
"Gather 'round, grandkids! Here's a picture of me kneeling on $1,700,000,000 worth of gold."
999 bars
Yeah those 998 bars that got deposited to our warehouse was a sick catch!
Yeah all 997 of those bars we had to carry sucked though.
But 996 bars aren't enough of an obstacle to stop us from giving them a taste of freedom
those 995 bars sure was worth the backbreaking effort to thwart that evil regime
I love how normally this is about drugs and it gets about halved each time, but with gold bars we're all like, "yeah, one's good."
Glad we were able to recover those 994 gold bars, btw.
EDIT: I just saw the second top comment thread and they wiped it out in a few comments. Oh, well.
You said 997 bars? Yes, correct, checks out with the paper work.
You figure if gold's current market value is $4.3k per ounce... 12.4kg is 27.28lbs. Which makes each bar 436.48oz. Which makes each bar have $1,876,864 worth of gold. EACH. (It would be tough to run with about 3 of those in your pockets. So I'll just take 1. Maybe 2.)
I played Dead Money. I learned the importance of *
not holding onto material wealth and instead living for truly important things in lifeabusing the encumbrance mechanic to cheese reality into allowing me to walk away with every last gold bar, making me ridiculously wealthy for the rest of my days.Letting go..of poverty, that is
He ain’t heavy, he’s my
console command cheatsbrotherWhen you have stars on your uniform you no longer need to run. You walk in plain view of everyone and put them in your vehicle and have them loaded into your personal jet.
Some American generals are flown in their own corporate jets. They do whatever they want with stuff like that.
I'll take 4, I'll figure it out. No pain no gain in its most literal sence..
I could use a few to prop my door open
Really!!?? These weigh 12kg dude - you holding a vault door open?
One per door is the policy in our house!
So back then what, like $500,000?
In 2003, gold ranged from $330-400 per ounce. That would put it in the $145k-175k range per bar, depending on exactly when during the year you're looking at.
Holy shit, didn't realize it went up that much in the last 22 years.
I'd be plenty happy with that that annual income then inflation adjust it going forward.
There were 2 tons, we moved that ton and a half into the trucks. Then we drove that ton of gold to the fort. At the fort we counted all 1.8k lbs of it and stored it on pallets. That 800lbs of pallets sat there until all 400lbs of it were loaded onto a plane. Back state side we unload all 100lbs of Saddam Hussein's treasure into a vault. And there his solitary bar of gold sits, to this day.
Those mdw had to be paid eh!
"Vdya taught me to not let go."
Did you learn nothing from the Dead Money DLC?
Of course, you stick the gold into the body and carry the head.
As a kid, fun to watch. As an adult: I know this would hurt like hell to dive into headfirst. It's a pile of metal.
Well you can rejoice in that the median US salary in gold is the same today (20 ounces) as in 1880. If you take average of every ten year period it has been 40 ounces per year in salary.
Damn I wish I was a gold bug like the guys in those crazy prepper shows used to be ten years ago.
or you could just put it in any stock index or better yet just Microsoft
I honestly just want one because it seems so fucking cool to just have a literal gold bar. Like, yeah, it’s valuable, but it’s just super cool to me for some reason.
Just shave a little bit off when you have to do your shopping.
I bought a silver bar and gold "bar" (more like a toothpick), never regretted it. They are neat!
Be honest, how many times have you chewed on it?
Of course it is it's a solid gold bar.
what gold bars ! !!
Could you be able to fit one im ypur bodily cavities?
Yes. It goes in the square hole.
*frustration intensifies
For almost 2 million I’d make it fit.
OH you gotta keep at least one. But you have to smuggle it out in smaller pieces.
Each one of those now worth about 1.8 million dollars.
Isn't it insane millions in poverty scraping by for a dollar and , and here is a pic of a man standing on some shiny rocks worth hundreds of millions of dollars
You have to consider how much overburden was removed and how little gold was in each truck load of gold ore that was dug out of ground and hauled to be processed.
Just like fish. The fish are free. You are paying for the lives (sometimes literally) of men spent going to get the fish for you.
But the men risking their lives to keep your lights on are still struggling the most
Lot of risky jobs out there taken for granted.
No just infuriating if you have a soul or any sort of morality in the least.
But this is capitalist society so I mean HOARD ALL THE THINGS, CHARGE THE MOST, MAKE THE MOST MONEY, FUCK EVERYONE ELSE YES YES YES GO GO GO INFINITE GROWTH ISN'T INSANE AT ALL GIMME THOSE BARS
In 2003 a standard 27 pound bar of gold was worth around $350k.
About $1.75 million today. 😲
Well I wouldn't buy it today then, prolly wait until tomorrow when it goes back down.
My dealer always said: Buy while high, sell while low.
Ah, I see your dealer frequents r/wallstreetbets
That sub is a master class in absolutely certainty followed by astounding reality and screen shots of 99.9% losses.
Exactly! I'm not investing if not on cocaine. Your dealer is a smart man.
Do you think they gave that back to Irak's national reserve?
Yeah, just like they're going to return Venezuela's oil hahahaha
They def returned all +/-50 gold bars recovered.
lololol😅😅
Really hope all those 950 gold bars were put to good use!
All 800 bars were unloaded without incident.
Received all 650 bars after transport.
Stored all 400 bars
What gold bars?
They owe us gold bars
I heard Venezuela has got some...
Better get after those commie bastards!
That tanker is full of gold bars!
Tanker intercepted, only founded black gold. Crew said Maduro has lots more.
We must invade Haribo
We have recovered the 200 missing bars from that guy.
I have it on record that you delivered all 200 snicker bars
You skimmed too many. Better sleep with one eye open.
Filled out inventory report about all 320 bars.
yes , 32 bars ...all 32 of them
Money from it funded American military for entire 1 hour
With 2003 gold price and current spending you are not that far away. At 2003 spending would be 2-3 hours :p
Sadly they turned out to just be a bunch of melted down shell casings. A real shame and not in any way suspicious.
Ea-nāṣir strikes again! I hope someone writes a really strongly worded complaint to him....
Nor amazing really
The WMDs that we were looking for
They were hidden all the oil too.
Dont worry we found it in Venezuela
Had to scroll down too far to see this. Literally looting another country
sadly it would only be around $1.75 billion today, which is pocket change for the US government
We three kings be stealing the gold
Thank you for scratching that ear worm.
Well this sub is astroturfed to hell and back
lol yeah, reddit is on a downswing for sure. Nothing but bots arguing with bots it seems like these days.
yeah a lot of months old default username accounts with hidden post histories all over this thread
I feel stupid sometimes, because I felt like I’m respond to and arguing with a bot on Reddit. Like some replies I get don’t sound human. It’s like they ignore what was written in my comment and go on to explain things that don’t need to be explained or they try to rage bait saying I’m supporting things that I just argued against. I don’t know it’s like they’re getting outraged over one sentence and not bothered to read the rest of the paragraphs in my comment.
Okay, I understand military intervention to stop a dictator's aggression, but how is that any different from plundering Iraqi gold that actually belongs to the Iraqi people? And to publicly brag about it...
It's not...
There is a very good reason why the "American Service-Members' Protection Act, " exists, it's a big fat fuck you from the USA to the rest of the world saying accusing US military or civilian members of war crimes and crimes against humanity is illegal.
Totally not because there is significant evidence that war crimes or crimes were committed, it's to prevent those evil children who's parents randomly died when US soldiers went door to door unloading bullets into homes because they were pissed that an IED went off and a marine got hurt.
Damn greedy children.
Seriously though , it's a sick and disgusting thing that has happen multiple times, and most Americans shove their head in the sand screaming "no, were the good guys, it's all a lie"
Look up Haditha massacre (and then maybe go down the rabbit hole of USA commited and mostly verified war crimes and crimes against humanity that was just shoved under the table by USA and their allies).
Well this comment is going to get negatively voted into hell , Americans aren't fans of facing the actions of their consequences.
Lol one american got injured? Must kill every brown in sight.
Literally the response to 9/11
Americans are first in line to shit on US. Dont pretend to expect downvotes
Eh, it can go either way. In real life there is a lot of military worship and and banal nationalism, like military flyovers and "salute to service" moments at games to the pledge of allegiance at school or the national anthem before every single thing, and criticism of these elements is not very well tolerated. Criticizing American military adventures, centering foreign victims in Vietnam or Iraq or whatever, or suggesting the American military behaved badly is not well received. If only there were that unflinching support for education here.
Yeah ima call cap
I've said things like this before, and it got nuked hard.
Very interesting change of tone, either Echo chambers are getting stronger because I've left quite a few other news/politics subs becuase it was obvious how strong it was shifting (either for or against my values, not being challenged is fucking boring) or seeing someone like Trump being president (what should be the moral compass of a nation) and not in jail might have woken up some ppl.
I hope it's the latter, but I doubt it.
Americans arent awake yet mostly thats why
American here, upvoted because the truth should never be hidden.
Who's gonna stop them?? No one has the power to do so.
Their wars are all based on lies and disguised as freedom.
The gold was being moved out of iraq by one 9f Saddams family and was returned to the new Iraq gov. 1 guy just took s photo of it.
It wasn’t plundered. It belongs to the democratic government of Iraq.
Yup. Sadam tried to clear out the reserves and flee with the gold. The US secured it and returned it to the central bank of Iraq.
Sadam was straight up plundering Iraq his entire rule. Remember Sadam's golden AK and all the mansions and extravagant shit. That was stolen from the people of Iraq.
After Iraq was sanctioned by the UN in 1990, an exception was made that Iraq could sell oil to fund humanitarian programs. Sadam did use some of the money to give his people free education, food and electricity while he simultaneously took nearly $7B from the fund.
Golden AKs are actually relatively affordable (at least for a wealthy gun collector). It's just gold plating so most of the cost is just the labor involved. One company online offers the service for $3000.
Americans in 2002: Iraq is murdering their own people, subjugating women, and funding terrorism across the world.
Americans in 2025: We must have stolen that gold from poor Saddam Hussein :( we're awful. *scrolls to next TikTok video*
Because this gold was given to the iraqi people. Saddam was tryong to get it out of the country to flee.
Its almost like you people dont care about the truth
The post states that the vehicles were intercepted, presumably trying to move the gold out of the country.
An article concerning the event is here, which claims the gold was intercepted travelling east, towards Iran, after the US government had already established occupation of Iraq. The article states that following assessment for the gold's purity, they would be sent to the Iraqi treasury, The article also states two days prior to the vehicle being intercepted a similar convoy carrying twice as much gold was intercepted on its way to the Syrian border.
tl;dr US Gov't did not steal thousands of bars of gold from the Iraqi people.
Don’t ruin the circle jerk
Actually the gold in these trucks were found at random by a US checkpoint driven by Iraqi drivers. All of the gold was given back to Iraqi government controlled funds.
Pretty sure they were returned to Iraq.
Because the US didn’t keep that gold.
It was captured from a member of the regime who basically looted the treasury and made a run from it.
You ate a lot of paint chips as a kid didn’t you?
This gold was famously fully returned to the government of Iraq.
The gold wasnt stolen. The story is Saddam’s son, cant remember which one, walked into a bank with a nite andleft with truck loads of gold during the final days of the war. This picture is the result of the American miltary being a lot faster than those trucks. US did a lot of bad there, but this isnt oneof them
It was taken from a dictator and reinvested into Iraq :) none of this gold was ever used by the US government. It was all made the property of the Iraqi democratic government.
This gold was returned to Iraq after being stopped form being given smuggled out of the country.
So no gold was stolen, a theft was in fact stopped
It wasn’t plundered, look up the history of the photo. Reverse image search
We're those confiscated bars the weapons of mass destruction?
Throw one into crowd and we will figure it out
That’s worth an ass load today
Me leaving the Sierra Madre on my 107th playthrough
I’m pretty sure if I was a soldier over there, all the trucks I checked would be empty… yup….darn it 🤷♂️
Wont work out with the mp
Wow, Americans stealing from other countries.
Very amazing indeed.
The weapons of mass destruction were successfully retrieved.
Mission accomplished.
Did he try to swim in it like Scrooge McDuck?
My old colleague was a captain in Desert Storm. Everybody and their gear was searched before leaving.
americans, the biggest hypocrites of the world.