If this was r/conservative getting banned I would agree with you, but the people spouting about how things are “woke” and how it’s bad usually only ever cite minorities being the issue. Bigotry is against Reddit’s TOS that you agreed that you would follow by signing up. If you don’t like it, go to a different service that will allow you to whine about black people in video games to your heart’s content.
I'm not a very political person and even then I try to see both sides of the arguments. There's a lot of extremists in politics now but on Reddit and a few other platforms I've noticed that the leftist extremists have been favoured more than the right extremists. And I don't get why considering both seem to harbor hate for specific groups of people and both like to have open discussions about harming said groups of people and yet only one is mostly clamped down when it should be both.
Also woke these days doesn't mean what it used to mean so when someone says their work or anti-woke now theyre basically referring to whether they agree or disagree with the ideologies of the left.
Edit: Well what I get for having an opinion and stating an observation.
You guys are so stuck in your echo chambers that you don't realise how stupid you look. Both sides have good points and bad points and yet everyone ignores each other because "No0oOo, they're n0t oN oUR Siiide"
Well what I get for having an opinion and stating an observation.
Facts over feelings 🤷♀️
You guys are so stuck in your echo chambers that you don't realise how stupid you look.
You guys love using vernacular you don't understand. Your presence and the encounter of your feelings based opinions literally makes this not an echo chamber.
ech·o cham·ber
an environment in which a person encounters only beliefs or opinions that coincide with their own, so that their existing views are reinforced and alternative ideas are not considered.
You are literally an encounter of beliefs or opinions that don't coincide with their own.....
Thanks for playing. Better luck next time.
Both sides have good points and bad points and yet everyone ignores each other because "No0oOo, they're n0t oN oUR Siiide"
One side literally supports literal Nazis, Nazi rhetoric, and just all around inhumane ideology.... and you're saying both are the same?
And I don't get why considering both seem to harbor hate for specific groups of people and both like to have open discussions about harming said groups of people and yet only one is mostly clamped down when it should be both
Who is the "extreme left" having open discussions about harming? What groups of people?
Also woke these days doesn't mean what it used to mean so when someone says their work or anti-woke now theyre basically referring to whether they agree or disagree with the ideologies of the left.
It's always been about a leftist ideology. That has never changed.
Extreme left arr the dudes calling anybody who's not on the left a Nazi.
And the ones legitimately call people Nazis? Are you just lumping them all in together?
Because I rarely see anyone calling people Nazis who aren't either acting like one or supporting Nazi shit.
And I don't get why considering both seem to harbor hate for specific groups of people and both like to have open discussions about harming said groups of people and yet only one is mostly clamped down when it should be both
So you're saying hateful bigoted nationalists hating is the same as being a hateful bigoted nationalist?
Interesting take.
Also I didn't say it wasn't a leftist ideology.
Also woke these days doesn't mean what it used to mean so when someone says their work or anti-woke now theyre basically referring to whether they agree or disagree with the ideologies of the left.
Look for its not that hard, in fact just scroll Twitter for a few seconds (depends on your feed of course))
Don't put words in my mouth. Also you're forgetting the fact that I said they call anyone who's not on the left or has a different opinion a Nazis. That includes people who may agree with them in some areas but not in others so no they're not just hating on "bigoted nationalists"
I said the meaning of the word changed. It used to mean being aware /conscious of social injustices and governmental abuse but the extremists now use it to encompass everything under the leftist ideology which I admit is majority of which is generally woke but not all of it.
Look for its not that hard, in fact just scroll Twitter for a few seconds (depends on your feed of course))
So could you cite real people doing this on both sides? Because I only see the right calling for violence.
Don't put words in my mouth
Which ones?
Also you're forgetting the fact that I said they call anyone who's not on the left or has a different opinion a Nazis. That includes people who may agree with them in some areas but not in others so no they're not just hating on "bigoted nationalists"
But they're hating on white nationalist supporters?
Could you cite where this is happening, (any of what you're saying) just one example, of a real life leftist doing this?
I said the meaning of the word changed. It used to mean being aware /conscious of social injustices and governmental abuse but the extremists now use it to encompass everything under the leftist ideology which I admit is majority of which is generally woke but not all of it.
So... it's the same meaning. Got it. Which parts aren't "woke" that galls under this?
Best example of a popular individual doing this is Hasan I guess.
You know what I'll end it here, I can try and look for as much evidence as possible but I know none of that is gonna get you to change your perspective on anything. I've been through this type of thing multiple times and it just never ends.
Look I know this won't do anything but try being more nuanced with your politics. You may not see the echo chamber but people on the outside can.
You win.
The far right is deporting people based on their skin color or religion and are actively taking awayminorities rights. Well, promoting white nationalism.
The fact that your big concern is people calling them nazis and saying they are equal is very telling.
At current government agents, which is treason and sedition against the government, which is a felony
Could you quote or site real people doing such things?
which group, which organization, which political faction, which leaders, and which statements are you talking about?
If you can’t provide names, quotes, or sources beyond “the left,” then you’re not describing real behavior.
nothing in your claim lines up with how the law actually works, and the way you’re using the words “treason,” “sedition,” and “felony” does not match their real legal meanings.
The shit loads of I’m idiots assaulting and stalking homeland security
There isn’t any evidence of a broad, organized left-wing campaign targeting DHS agents. What you do see every few years are the same kinds of scattered protest clashes that have existed for decades, usually tied to specific events, specific cities, and specific moments of police escalation. Those are individual incidents, not a coordinated effort, and DHS’s own public reporting has never shown anything close to “loads” of assaults by a particular political faction.
As for the legal side, assaulting a federal officer is already a crime under 18 U.S.C. § 111. That statute covers physical attacks or attempts to impede an officer in the course of their duties. If someone actually does that, they can be charged with a felony. But that is a simple criminal violation, not treason, not sedition, and not a political offense. It is treated the same way regardless of whether the person is left-wing, right-wing, or apolitical.
Stalking federal officers is also already covered under general federal stalking and threat statutes. Again, if an individual did this, the charge would match the act. It would not magically become “treason” because the target works for the government.
which DHS report they’re referring to or which case numbers show this supposed pattern?
DHS publishes annual statistics on attacks against personnel, and they’re not reporting any surge. Without that, you are repeating a narrative rather than describing real events.
What you are doing is moving the goalposts from “the extreme left is openly discussing harming government agents,” which you could not substantiate, to a vague accusation about people attacking DHS.
When someone jumps from rhetoric to an accusation of widespread criminal conduct without details, it’s usually because they don’t have evidence for the first claim and are hoping the second one sounds scary enough that you won’t ask for specifics.
even then I try to see both sides of the arguments
When history professors and experts on fascism are leaving the United States while stating outright “This is how Nazi Germany did things, get out while you still can”,
Did you try to see that side of the argument? Or do you call people who spent their whole lives reading old newspapers and letters “leftist extremists”? What has to happen beyond “Congress abdicates authority for a whole year to enable unlimited executive exercise of authority! and the military starts rounding people up off the streets because they had the wrong colour of skin! or were in possession of subversive literature!” for you to stop being in denial?
Rule 1. Is against bigotry I think. The "V3" implies that this is the third time making this subreddit, and iirc rule 2. Is something like "no ban evasions," which this is
Only if there had been a time in history, where a certain country of people did this same exact thing, to show us all how fucking stupid they are, but alas, that never happened. There has never ever ever been a time where a large group thought everything they did, was the right thing, for the people.
i mean ghost has a point and this is coming from someone who considers themselves a progressive moderate. a lot of leftists have looked at me weird or treated me weird for believing things like voter id should be a thing or taking a more right-wing stance on crime and punishment (especially severe crimes) or a few other things. they really do act like if you dont agree with EVERYTHING they say then YOURE suddenly as bad as people who are far worse.
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That was fast
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Jesus, do they ever learn?
No, their heads are too far up they asses
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Censoring one side of the argument is never a good i dea. Also what's rule 2?
If this was r/conservative getting banned I would agree with you, but the people spouting about how things are “woke” and how it’s bad usually only ever cite minorities being the issue. Bigotry is against Reddit’s TOS that you agreed that you would follow by signing up. If you don’t like it, go to a different service that will allow you to whine about black people in video games to your heart’s content.
I'm not a very political person and even then I try to see both sides of the arguments. There's a lot of extremists in politics now but on Reddit and a few other platforms I've noticed that the leftist extremists have been favoured more than the right extremists. And I don't get why considering both seem to harbor hate for specific groups of people and both like to have open discussions about harming said groups of people and yet only one is mostly clamped down when it should be both. Also woke these days doesn't mean what it used to mean so when someone says their work or anti-woke now theyre basically referring to whether they agree or disagree with the ideologies of the left.
Edit: Well what I get for having an opinion and stating an observation. You guys are so stuck in your echo chambers that you don't realise how stupid you look. Both sides have good points and bad points and yet everyone ignores each other because "No0oOo, they're n0t oN oUR Siiide"
Facts over feelings 🤷♀️
You guys love using vernacular you don't understand. Your presence and the encounter of your feelings based opinions literally makes this not an echo chamber.
You are literally an encounter of beliefs or opinions that don't coincide with their own.....
Thanks for playing. Better luck next time.
One side literally supports literal Nazis, Nazi rhetoric, and just all around inhumane ideology.... and you're saying both are the same?
Yeah..... no.
What facts politics is mostly opinions based and if they were fact based then it wouldn't existt
What Subreddits are you in?
You are an extremist and I am waisting my time
That sounds about Right....
Enough to know this all isn't a reflection of reality and that it's all made up and the points don't matter.
Lol, is this the "everyone is a nazi who doesn't agree with me" mindset you speak of?
Funny how you're the one wielding the blade you accuse others of using. As per usual...
*wasting, Centrist dear.
You’re full of shit.
Who is the "extreme left" having open discussions about harming? What groups of people?
It's always been about a leftist ideology. That has never changed.
Extreme left arr the dudes calling anybody who's not on the left a Nazi.
Also I didn't say it wasn't a leftist ideology.
And the ones legitimately call people Nazis? Are you just lumping them all in together?
Because I rarely see anyone calling people Nazis who aren't either acting like one or supporting Nazi shit.
So you're saying hateful bigoted nationalists hating is the same as being a hateful bigoted nationalist?
Interesting take.
But you said it had changed. When it hasn't.
Look for its not that hard, in fact just scroll Twitter for a few seconds (depends on your feed of course))
Don't put words in my mouth. Also you're forgetting the fact that I said they call anyone who's not on the left or has a different opinion a Nazis. That includes people who may agree with them in some areas but not in others so no they're not just hating on "bigoted nationalists"
I said the meaning of the word changed. It used to mean being aware /conscious of social injustices and governmental abuse but the extremists now use it to encompass everything under the leftist ideology which I admit is majority of which is generally woke but not all of it.
So could you cite real people doing this on both sides? Because I only see the right calling for violence.
Which ones?
But they're hating on white nationalist supporters?
Could you cite where this is happening, (any of what you're saying) just one example, of a real life leftist doing this?
So... it's the same meaning. Got it. Which parts aren't "woke" that galls under this?
Edit: "white nationalist"
Best example of a popular individual doing this is Hasan I guess. You know what I'll end it here, I can try and look for as much evidence as possible but I know none of that is gonna get you to change your perspective on anything. I've been through this type of thing multiple times and it just never ends. Look I know this won't do anything but try being more nuanced with your politics. You may not see the echo chamber but people on the outside can. You win.
So one example of a leftist that most leftists hate... right.
Maybe cite some politicians... you know real people that make a real world impact.
Why quit when you're so far ahead... no... don't...
Or maybe you don't have anything of substance to support your claims 🤷♀️
Because you can't find suitable evidence to support your feelings?
All set pal. I've got two big scoops of nuance all over my reality.
Says the guy who's presence and outcrying makes this literally not an "echo chamber."
The call is coming from within the echo chamber! From within the echo chamber!!!!
You think this is about win/lose.
Nah pal. Like always, it about facts.
One side seems to love them and the other side love their feelings.
Good luck with all those feelings you have! 👋
Stop acting like Nazis and people will stop calling you Nazis.
The far right is deporting people based on their skin color or religion and are actively taking awayminorities rights. Well, promoting white nationalism.
The fact that your big concern is people calling them nazis and saying they are equal is very telling.
Usually for good reason. Everyone I've seen who's complained about this always had Nazi views.
At current government agents, which is treason and sedition against the government, which is a felony
Could you quote or site real people doing such things?
which group, which organization, which political faction, which leaders, and which statements are you talking about?
If you can’t provide names, quotes, or sources beyond “the left,” then you’re not describing real behavior.
nothing in your claim lines up with how the law actually works, and the way you’re using the words “treason,” “sedition,” and “felony” does not match their real legal meanings.
The shit loads of I’m idiots assaulting and stalking homeland security
There isn’t any evidence of a broad, organized left-wing campaign targeting DHS agents. What you do see every few years are the same kinds of scattered protest clashes that have existed for decades, usually tied to specific events, specific cities, and specific moments of police escalation. Those are individual incidents, not a coordinated effort, and DHS’s own public reporting has never shown anything close to “loads” of assaults by a particular political faction.
As for the legal side, assaulting a federal officer is already a crime under 18 U.S.C. § 111. That statute covers physical attacks or attempts to impede an officer in the course of their duties. If someone actually does that, they can be charged with a felony. But that is a simple criminal violation, not treason, not sedition, and not a political offense. It is treated the same way regardless of whether the person is left-wing, right-wing, or apolitical.
Stalking federal officers is also already covered under general federal stalking and threat statutes. Again, if an individual did this, the charge would match the act. It would not magically become “treason” because the target works for the government.
which DHS report they’re referring to or which case numbers show this supposed pattern?
DHS publishes annual statistics on attacks against personnel, and they’re not reporting any surge. Without that, you are repeating a narrative rather than describing real events.
What you are doing is moving the goalposts from “the extreme left is openly discussing harming government agents,” which you could not substantiate, to a vague accusation about people attacking DHS.
When someone jumps from rhetoric to an accusation of widespread criminal conduct without details, it’s usually because they don’t have evidence for the first claim and are hoping the second one sounds scary enough that you won’t ask for specifics.
Is that what you're doing here?
When history professors and experts on fascism are leaving the United States while stating outright “This is how Nazi Germany did things, get out while you still can”,
Did you try to see that side of the argument? Or do you call people who spent their whole lives reading old newspapers and letters “leftist extremists”? What has to happen beyond “Congress abdicates authority for a whole year to enable unlimited executive exercise of authority! and the military starts rounding people up off the streets because they had the wrong colour of skin! or were in possession of subversive literature!” for you to stop being in denial?
Rule 1. Is against bigotry I think. The "V3" implies that this is the third time making this subreddit, and iirc rule 2. Is something like "no ban evasions," which this is
It’s kinda their go-to thing.
Either you’re part of the hivemind or you’re literally Hitler. There’s zero nuance or middle ground to it.
Only if there had been a time in history, where a certain country of people did this same exact thing, to show us all how fucking stupid they are, but alas, that never happened. There has never ever ever been a time where a large group thought everything they did, was the right thing, for the people.
I did not see this coming.
i mean ghost has a point and this is coming from someone who considers themselves a progressive moderate. a lot of leftists have looked at me weird or treated me weird for believing things like voter id should be a thing or taking a more right-wing stance on crime and punishment (especially severe crimes) or a few other things. they really do act like if you dont agree with EVERYTHING they say then YOURE suddenly as bad as people who are far worse.
stop with the "it's not racist to want your neighborhood to stay the same and the black people stats" and then come back and say this
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There are hate subs for the other way around. The antiwoke subs however had plenty of (unironic) racists who didn’t hide it.
Shouldn't have to hide your opinion for disagreeing. If one side gets to speak freely they both do.
Hating other human beings for the pigmentation of their skin isn't an opinion. It's a morally wrong thing to do.
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Not a good hill to die on.
Not even a hill, it's a canyon.
Fair hill to die on. I'd rather everyone be real then pretending to care.
If you want to be a rude, racist, and hate-filled person then so be it
Bro has their history hidden too lmao
They can't even be loud and proud about it
Will do.
Damn. What reason is there to hate?
Edit: their comment before it was deleted said “their culture”
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