I don't get it. I got an XFX 9070XT MAG and never looked back at my 3090. Driver issues, mystery crashes, stuttering... All gone. It's like switching from red to green a decade ago.
Same, so many posts about driver issues yet I don’t even remember the last time I had a crash. Some people think that all you need to do is swap cards and you are good to go and that’s where the main issue lies.
The only driver issues I have had is when I was trying to train some vr face tracking stuff on my 9070xt. It would run the training fine but just crash on the cleanup at the end.
But with that being said I have also had my fair share of weird edge case crashes on my various nivida cards
I've faced some amdgpu crashes that I don't recall with Nvidia, eg with Mass Effect 1. Mirror's Edge Catalyst crashes to desktop after 2s of the intro loading scene, worked fine with 3070. Both of these examples involve Origin / EA Desktop though, but still, worked fine with Nvidia. (All this is on proton, if that wasn't clear.)
IMO yes. I had problems with hard lock ups and didn't realize how bad the inconsistent stuttering was on the 3090. The only issues I have had with AMD are what could be described as fringe cases--e.g. running five EVE Online clients at max settings, running EVE + max settings and Tarkov at the same time, and in one instance the latest official AMD driver didn't play nice with Star Citizen (an alpha). The driver would crash and responsiveness would go down but then it would recover. Compare that with regular (once or twice a night) hard lock ups or long hangs with the 3090. Space Marine 2 was unplayable on the Nvidia due to constant 0.5 - 3 second hangs, but is buttery smooth on AMD. Their drivers are in a really good place atm (I am running an UW on Win11 with a 9800X3D).
Sounds like you had a lot of crashing related problems I don’t have. Good to experience has been good as well. I’m mainly on Linux so having an AMD card will definitely give me a better experience. Would you say there was a performance improvement or no? TBH I don’t play a ton of games anymore, my 2x3090s are mostly for local AI development as I’m a software engineer. I might add a 9070xt just for gaming though.
Yes, there is still a 15-25+% uplift going from one 3090 to a 9070XT. With benchmarks, my Steep Nomad score went from 5300 (53 FPS) with the 3090 to 7200 (73 FPS) with the 9070XT. Benchmarks and FPS in game aren't quite the same, but it's still a big step up.
from what i noticed, my GPU drivers only crash if you change from stock settings. could be wrong but after i switched to the 9070XT, i haven't had but 2 crashes on mh wilds and dragon dogma 2, two games known to run like shit
I mean it's nice that you had a good experience, and my 7900XTX served me well AND stable (mostly)
but AMD has it's issues .... just as an Example 7000 Series crash when engaging PT for over HALF A FUCKING YEAR.... like come on this is bad
The greatest issue I had with my 6800XT was that there was no reason to look for an upgrade for over 5 years straight. Now I'm on 9070XT and I hope it gives me the same trouble.
Yeah I´m still running a 6900XT from 2020 (right at the prices hikes because of crypto) and I can run basically everything maxed out on 1440p. Sometimes I need FSR or to take some options lower, but thats mostly with recent titles.
My steam backlog has so much games that I can max out. But the FSR4 updates is making me thinking of upgrading to the 9070XT.
There are driver issues on Windows side, not on AMD side.
Windows Driver Update automatically downloads and installs some ancient GPU/APU Drivers from 2024 after manual driver installs with DDU.
This causes the "Driver Hang/Outdated hardware driver" Adrenalin Software and Windows error messages to pop up. Here is a guide on how to fix on Windows 10 and 11.
NVIDIA was having way more issues since 2023 every other driver bunch was broken, NVIDIA drivers on Linux are proprietary user space blobs that barely work without tinkering on Wayland and only on RTX series GPU's and have DX12 Proton overhead issues when gaming.
Gtx 770 to 1660 super to 3070 team green into my newest less than 1 year old 9070 xt
Cpus were all intel, now 9800x3d.
No issues. No lag spikes. No stutters. Pure bliss
I am not an Nvidia fanboy however, nvidia dlss 4, ray tracing, ray reconstruction, lower power consumption are more appealing to me than Rx 9070xt redstone that doesn't even work right. I recommend rtx 5070 ti to anyone who is able to stretch their budget. Rx 9070xt might have a price to performance advantage. However, AMD software and support are shaky at best
I get some of it. But I’m surprised people have so many issues. I’ve had a Radeon graphics card in my build for over twenty years. I’ve had no issues with games. Except one.
Just Cause 2. I could never get that game to work on my old Vega 56. Horrific artifacting and constant crashes. It’s the only game I legitimately couldn’t play. Not sure why. I tried to troubleshoot the issue for hours over the course of a few weeks. I seemed to have been an isolated case since there weren’t many support threads out there. It played fine on my 6950xt build.
Maybe the newer Rdnas can be temperamental (still on 2 🫡) but I’ve never had many driver issues with my AMDs, even the sketchy as fuck Vega 64 I used to run
I swear to god, most cases of issues come from not updating. My friend for example used win 10 and had alot of issues with it and driver issues. I asked what version they were using and lo and behold they had first version of windows 10 and drivers were still fresh from first release of vid card. Reinstall windows and installed new drivers. Oh my how did all the problems go away?
This was few years ago so now they keep things up to date and no more issues have risen.
I've been running a used 6900xt for the past year or so and it's been great so far. Plays everything I want on 1440p max settings and hasn't had any issues so far
I only had big issues with my 3070ti (and gimped vram too)
Then 3080 12gb was fine a bit weak at 1440p max settings.
And then i upgraded to 9070 and i get so much value for what it is.
Imagine getting a brand new 9070 at £380, it runs 20% faster than the 3080, it runs way cooler. (I miss the heat this winter honestly), it is very quiet, very light, and i can have peak bazzite experience on it. Couldn't ask for anything else.
There are 255 people as of writing this maintaining the mesa project. Some are volunteers, some are contractors or employees of companies such as AMD, Collabora, Google, Igalia, Intel, Red Hat, Valve, VMware. See full list: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/project_members
it is some randoms who have no idea what hardware they are writing it for and have no information about architecture and such so essentially guessing what is best
If you would have read my comment (and understood it) you would know that AMD and Intel are among the contributors of the Mesa drivers. You know, Intel and AMD the manufacturers and designers of GPUs, the engineers that make them.
So no, not a bunch of randoms, as you said.
You can't just compensate ignorance with confidence, you know?
assuming they aren't just lying to look better (very unlikely) why amd dedicates people to this random shit project when they can't make their own drivers not absolutely fucking suck on every platform?
or it is just same Chinese programmers they hired for open source drivers they use for their main line drivers
or it is like tf2 situation where random intern works on that
Yes this kind of annoyed me at the time but i still upgraded due to the memory shortage.
Umm i thought about it and then i considered my huge backlog my multiplatform use, my lack of free time and thought: fair enough, if i drop everything today and start playing till i die, and if they will release no games anymore i will not have time to play them all... so RIP
i mean as Radeon owner i am telling you, drop and run
i owned 3 amd gpus and they were all UNBELIEVABLY horrible experience, drivers maintained by monkeys and hardware is just fucking terrible
i guess having more vram is nice but it is useless when every game crashing because your driver just happened to be incompatible with that exact version
or driver decided to corrupt itself or leak all memory because handling even slightly non perfectly standard code is illegal apparently
I only had issues with vega 64 (fuck vega architecture) and from nvidia side a ton of issues on 3070ti driver related too, so it is a mixed bag in my experience.
Now for certain i would get nvidia 4080 or 5070ti if i had the finances but unfortunately i don't have it anymore. I will consider it tho jf j find a good deal. I could sell this for £400 and then add another 100/200 depending how next months will go
6700xt i was told be good and nice, after my ptsd 5700xt experience.. it was .. and i am still mad , as i am stuck with moody gpu that refuses to be gpu
I run a rx6650xt and the only driving issues I get is a clash that i sometimes get on a start up of windows, only happens like once and doesn’t for like a few days. Now just it seems like it’s gone permanently
Been using Nvidia for a long while and saying it's stable is a stretch lol. It's even more unacceptable for Nvidia to have problems especially the crap ton of money they make from these cards now.
having reluctantly gotten rtx5060 low profile instead of my aging Radeon RX6400, I think the green boys joking about AMD driver issues might as well shut up
having gotten this green stuff, I suddenly remembered what black screens look like.
or this laggy BIOS thing nobody likes to talk about
AMD makes awesome cards! Just not for every performance bracket.... if you aiming for a low/mid/high-mid range build AMD is still AWESOME!
But if you wanna take some cash into your hands and get a 5080/5090 AMD just isn't competing, not in their software, not in their RT performance.
And AMD making their new Upscaler only usable for 9000 Series was not a good move, but doing that AND not giving me an upgrade path for my 7900XTX is just .... sorry but stupid <-< I am stuck with the fastet AMD card.... with an upscaler that is generations behinde Nvidia AND the 9000 series in terms of image quality.
Yes I am annoyed that my 7900XTX can't use FSR4
I am PISSED I don't have an upgrade path to even USE FSR4 without crippling my performance when I don't use it....
People keep saying AMD has their RTX moment with FSR4.... well but the RTX Series had an upgrade to the 1080ti now didn't it?
Edit: Adrenaline still GOATED tho, I DID switch to an 5080 but I really miss adrenaline, such a versatile and cool tool!
Edit2: fuck this is AyyMD <.< could just have saved the 3 minutes of writing this xD
now i just need to get myself bullied for having a 8400f XD
nah, here's some praise
awesome CPU man
https://preview.redd.it/c50mtrtni7dg1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8970628ed9315bcd4957c38557685f4cd16d94d4
wha...
I don't get it. I got an XFX 9070XT MAG and never looked back at my 3090. Driver issues, mystery crashes, stuttering... All gone. It's like switching from red to green a decade ago.
Same, so many posts about driver issues yet I don’t even remember the last time I had a crash. Some people think that all you need to do is swap cards and you are good to go and that’s where the main issue lies.
The only driver issues I have had is when I was trying to train some vr face tracking stuff on my 9070xt. It would run the training fine but just crash on the cleanup at the end.
But with that being said I have also had my fair share of weird edge case crashes on my various nivida cards
problems exist, but many of them must be posted in windows sub
24.5.1 was reasonably stable on my old 7900 XTX, anything after it was dogass until i sold the card
Is it better to use the driver from the 3rd party's site or the one on amd's site?
AMD website.
I get driver time out issue and that too outside gaming. Not sure why though.
I have all of these sometimes, when I run full driver. Minimal and bare driver are great though.
https://preview.redd.it/x1i4de1ms8dg1.png?width=577&format=png&auto=webp&s=be6fe701d0bb8b38c1c4c100a4419784d9c74f98
RX 6650 XT @ 25.12.1
Win11 24H2
I've faced some amdgpu crashes that I don't recall with Nvidia, eg with Mass Effect 1. Mirror's Edge Catalyst crashes to desktop after 2s of the intro loading scene, worked fine with 3070. Both of these examples involve Origin / EA Desktop though, but still, worked fine with Nvidia. (All this is on proton, if that wasn't clear.)
I use mesa drivers for my 6800xt... what is this crash you speak of?
rebranded to R.ID and same for my 7700xt it works flawlessly
I have an RTX 3090, do you think it is worth the upgrade?
IMO yes. I had problems with hard lock ups and didn't realize how bad the inconsistent stuttering was on the 3090. The only issues I have had with AMD are what could be described as fringe cases--e.g. running five EVE Online clients at max settings, running EVE + max settings and Tarkov at the same time, and in one instance the latest official AMD driver didn't play nice with Star Citizen (an alpha). The driver would crash and responsiveness would go down but then it would recover. Compare that with regular (once or twice a night) hard lock ups or long hangs with the 3090. Space Marine 2 was unplayable on the Nvidia due to constant 0.5 - 3 second hangs, but is buttery smooth on AMD. Their drivers are in a really good place atm (I am running an UW on Win11 with a 9800X3D).
Sounds like you had a lot of crashing related problems I don’t have. Good to experience has been good as well. I’m mainly on Linux so having an AMD card will definitely give me a better experience. Would you say there was a performance improvement or no? TBH I don’t play a ton of games anymore, my 2x3090s are mostly for local AI development as I’m a software engineer. I might add a 9070xt just for gaming though.
Yes, there is still a 15-25+% uplift going from one 3090 to a 9070XT. With benchmarks, my Steep Nomad score went from 5300 (53 FPS) with the 3090 to 7200 (73 FPS) with the 9070XT. Benchmarks and FPS in game aren't quite the same, but it's still a big step up.
same, went from a 1660 super to a 9060 xt 16gb, the upgrade is insane and im very happy with the card and how the driver has been performing lol
Ayo got this one too
from what i noticed, my GPU drivers only crash if you change from stock settings. could be wrong but after i switched to the 9070XT, i haven't had but 2 crashes on mh wilds and dragon dogma 2, two games known to run like shit
I’ve got driver issues on my 7800xt, the driver (I think) keeps crashing and the screen goes black for a second, like in a driver update
I mean it's nice that you had a good experience, and my 7900XTX served me well AND stable (mostly)
but AMD has it's issues .... just as an Example 7000 Series crash when engaging PT for over HALF A FUCKING YEAR.... like come on this is bad
pretty on point, especially the dudes that just got a 9070xt and get bullied because they like their cards
Whats wrong with the 9070xt?
nothing, it's a great card, people are just grumpy nowadays
People trying to alter their cards from stock, run into issues, and blame the card
it doesnt help the constant "just undervolt it bro, it is easy, no problems whatsoever. If you don't, you are wasting your money."
This. I guarantee the first thing they do is try to dick with the tuning and when it crashes come here and screech
i like to tinker but having a shitty/unstable/unreliable profile is so easy
I think it's something wrong with Windows 11.
They mad cause they over spent on a melting connector.
Greatest issue I had with my 6800xt was finding one at MSRP during the crypto craze
The greatest issue I had with my 6800XT was that there was no reason to look for an upgrade for over 5 years straight. Now I'm on 9070XT and I hope it gives me the same trouble.
Way things are going there will be no reason to upgrade from rdna2 in another 5 years either. Feels good as an owner but horrific for the industry.
that's good because i got my rdna3 card last Christmas so i should be set for that same amount of time
Yeah I´m still running a 6900XT from 2020 (right at the prices hikes because of crypto) and I can run basically everything maxed out on 1440p. Sometimes I need FSR or to take some options lower, but thats mostly with recent titles.
My steam backlog has so much games that I can max out. But the FSR4 updates is making me thinking of upgrading to the 9070XT.
There are driver issues on Windows side, not on AMD side.
Windows Driver Update automatically downloads and installs some ancient GPU/APU Drivers from 2024 after manual driver installs with DDU.
This causes the "Driver Hang/Outdated hardware driver" Adrenalin Software and Windows error messages to pop up. Here is a guide on how to fix on Windows 10 and 11.
https://www.reddit.com/r/radeon/comments/1pibebw/how\_to\_fix\_amd\_gpu\_driver\_issues\_on\_windows\_11/?
There are none of these issues on Linux.
NVIDIA was having way more issues since 2023 every other driver bunch was broken, NVIDIA drivers on Linux are proprietary user space blobs that barely work without tinkering on Wayland and only on RTX series GPU's and have DX12 Proton overhead issues when gaming.
I just wantthe horror of
Driver timeout to end
Gtx 770 to 1660 super to 3070 team green into my newest less than 1 year old 9070 xt Cpus were all intel, now 9800x3d. No issues. No lag spikes. No stutters. Pure bliss
I mean, FO4 crashed and the Adrenaline software said it was a Driver thing.
But I'm 101% sure its because I had 600+ mods on the game, nothing to do with the new 9070xt I threw it the machine.
OP:
OP again:
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I get some of it. But I’m surprised people have so many issues. I’ve had a Radeon graphics card in my build for over twenty years. I’ve had no issues with games. Except one.
Just Cause 2. I could never get that game to work on my old Vega 56. Horrific artifacting and constant crashes. It’s the only game I legitimately couldn’t play. Not sure why. I tried to troubleshoot the issue for hours over the course of a few weeks. I seemed to have been an isolated case since there weren’t many support threads out there. It played fine on my 6950xt build.
Maybe the newer Rdnas can be temperamental (still on 2 🫡) but I’ve never had many driver issues with my AMDs, even the sketchy as fuck Vega 64 I used to run
I can be the only one living in perfect balance between a 9800X3D and a 9070 XT
Literal PC gaming zen
I swear to god, most cases of issues come from not updating. My friend for example used win 10 and had alot of issues with it and driver issues. I asked what version they were using and lo and behold they had first version of windows 10 and drivers were still fresh from first release of vid card. Reinstall windows and installed new drivers. Oh my how did all the problems go away?
This was few years ago so now they keep things up to date and no more issues have risen.
The 9000 series flooded that sub with nvidiots
The irony is that r/nvidia has a ton of driver issues, at least half of them starting with blackwell drivers
I've been running a used 6900xt for the past year or so and it's been great so far. Plays everything I want on 1440p max settings and hasn't had any issues so far
Hell yea let me spend twice the money for a novideo and suck more corpo cock than possible.
What? Are you mad?
I only had big issues with my 3070ti (and gimped vram too)
Then 3080 12gb was fine a bit weak at 1440p max settings.
And then i upgraded to 9070 and i get so much value for what it is.
Imagine getting a brand new 9070 at £380, it runs 20% faster than the 3080, it runs way cooler. (I miss the heat this winter honestly), it is very quiet, very light, and i can have peak bazzite experience on it. Couldn't ask for anything else.
for it last 2 years because amyd will drop support for it
and this is why the drivers are open source, if you wanted to (will have to eventually) you won't even use amd's own drivers
and who will maintain them? you yourself?
There are 255 people as of writing this maintaining the mesa project. Some are volunteers, some are contractors or employees of companies such as AMD, Collabora, Google, Igalia, Intel, Red Hat, Valve, VMware. See full list: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/project_members
oh cool get 1% of actual gpu performance
Source: your ass?
i mean it just makes sense
it is some randoms who have no idea what hardware they are writing it for and have no information about architecture and such so essentially guessing what is best
If you would have read my comment (and understood it) you would know that AMD and Intel are among the contributors of the Mesa drivers. You know, Intel and AMD the manufacturers and designers of GPUs, the engineers that make them.
So no, not a bunch of randoms, as you said.
You can't just compensate ignorance with confidence, you know?
assuming they aren't just lying to look better (very unlikely) why amd dedicates people to this random shit project when they can't make their own drivers not absolutely fucking suck on every platform?
or it is just same Chinese programmers they hired for open source drivers they use for their main line drivers
or it is like tf2 situation where random intern works on that
Yes this kind of annoyed me at the time but i still upgraded due to the memory shortage.
Umm i thought about it and then i considered my huge backlog my multiplatform use, my lack of free time and thought: fair enough, if i drop everything today and start playing till i die, and if they will release no games anymore i will not have time to play them all... so RIP
i mean as Radeon owner i am telling you, drop and run
i owned 3 amd gpus and they were all UNBELIEVABLY horrible experience, drivers maintained by monkeys and hardware is just fucking terrible
i guess having more vram is nice but it is useless when every game crashing because your driver just happened to be incompatible with that exact version
or driver decided to corrupt itself or leak all memory because handling even slightly non perfectly standard code is illegal apparently
I understand your gripe.
I owned lots of nvidia and amd gpus
I only had issues with vega 64 (fuck vega architecture) and from nvidia side a ton of issues on 3070ti driver related too, so it is a mixed bag in my experience.
Now for certain i would get nvidia 4080 or 5070ti if i had the finances but unfortunately i don't have it anymore. I will consider it tho jf j find a good deal. I could sell this for £400 and then add another 100/200 depending how next months will go
fyi, these were rx 580, 5700xt and ,6700xt
6700xt i was told be good and nice, after my ptsd 5700xt experience.. it was .. and i am still mad , as i am stuck with moody gpu that refuses to be gpu
Bullcrap. Haven't had a single hiccup or error with my RX9070XT in W11. Using it for pure raster though, maybe that's why.
I run a rx6650xt and the only driving issues I get is a clash that i sometimes get on a start up of windows, only happens like once and doesn’t for like a few days. Now just it seems like it’s gone permanently
Most issues is just windows
As someone with 6700xt I was looking forward to the new FSR only to not be included, and with the current prices I can’t even upgrade
You don’t need it you have rsr
the team red and team green slop posts piss me off so much
Been using Nvidia for a long while and saying it's stable is a stretch lol. It's even more unacceptable for Nvidia to have problems especially the crap ton of money they make from these cards now.
having reluctantly gotten rtx5060 low profile instead of my aging Radeon RX6400, I think the green boys joking about AMD driver issues might as well shut up
having gotten this green stuff, I suddenly remembered what black screens look like.
or this laggy BIOS thing nobody likes to talk about
Not to that extent but FSR4 would be nice for my 7800XT. 😕
AMD makes awesome cards! Just not for every performance bracket.... if you aiming for a low/mid/high-mid range build AMD is still AWESOME!
But if you wanna take some cash into your hands and get a 5080/5090 AMD just isn't competing, not in their software, not in their RT performance.
And AMD making their new Upscaler only usable for 9000 Series was not a good move, but doing that AND not giving me an upgrade path for my 7900XTX is just .... sorry but stupid <-< I am stuck with the fastet AMD card.... with an upscaler that is generations behinde Nvidia AND the 9000 series in terms of image quality.
Yes I am annoyed that my 7900XTX can't use FSR4
I am PISSED I don't have an upgrade path to even USE FSR4 without crippling my performance when I don't use it....
People keep saying AMD has their RTX moment with FSR4.... well but the RTX Series had an upgrade to the 1080ti now didn't it?
Edit: Adrenaline still GOATED tho, I DID switch to an 5080 but I really miss adrenaline, such a versatile and cool tool!
Edit2: fuck this is AyyMD <.< could just have saved the 3 minutes of writing this xD
Laughs in Linux user.
Vegan.
I don't have issues so everyone else is wrong AMD Fanboy mentality here Jesus.... Bet you morons also have Apple