The designs of Zen 4/5 are so close to the design of Zen 2/3, too. The main difference is that the new node / new socket required new power delivery considerations, that the new node being smaller allowed for larger caches to fit in a smaller space, and swapping the DDR4 for DDR5 memory controller.
In other words, a 7800X3D is basically just a die-shrunk 5800X3D updated for a new socket. And a 9800X3D / 9850X3D are a die-shrunk 5800X3D on a slightly more mature node allowing slightly higher clock speeds. Which means the easiest thing AMD could do to supply chips during the RAM crisis, without incurring 2+ years of "how do we back-port the die shrink to AM4?" is to just forget about the die shrink altogether and start up 5800X3D production right where it left off, no changes whatsoever. Sure it can't reach the same clock speeds, but other than that + the DDR4 thing, it's basically the same.
As if to emphasize just how little that NPU actually does, it's only on their laptop CPUs.
I also never really grasped the concept of processing AI on the PC at home... the whole thing about AI is how power hungry the neural nets are. a little NPU sitting on your PC isn't going to do much.
Same with phones - when I select "Process all content on my device" the phone's AI is essentially disabled.
Probably, but again, it's a laptop - compute power of the NPU isn't comparable to the cloud data processing most models need to process stolen IP and repurpose it into whatever.
Is the picture somehow related to the text?
Ok. I thought for a second I cant read english anymore or Im just stupid.
Someone here is stupid. It ain’t you.
It's one of the first Ryzen CPUs, with the date highlighted to show that it was released 9 years ago
Thank you, now it's clear that there is no connection between the picture and text.
The good news is they might restart production for AM4 Ryzen 5000 series for DDr4 ram with all the ddr5 ram gone into servers.
Would be nice if they could Backport Ryzen 7000 and/or 9000 to am4
The designs of Zen 4/5 are so close to the design of Zen 2/3, too. The main difference is that the new node / new socket required new power delivery considerations, that the new node being smaller allowed for larger caches to fit in a smaller space, and swapping the DDR4 for DDR5 memory controller.
In other words, a 7800X3D is basically just a die-shrunk 5800X3D updated for a new socket. And a 9800X3D / 9850X3D are a die-shrunk 5800X3D on a slightly more mature node allowing slightly higher clock speeds. Which means the easiest thing AMD could do to supply chips during the RAM crisis, without incurring 2+ years of "how do we back-port the die shrink to AM4?" is to just forget about the die shrink altogether and start up 5800X3D production right where it left off, no changes whatsoever. Sure it can't reach the same clock speeds, but other than that + the DDR4 thing, it's basically the same.
if pentium overdrive could go into 80486 boards, then AM5 can somehow be made to work, too.
pentium overdrive also tells us there will be performance loss vs native AM5
considering the performance difference (which is not 2-3x), such conversion might eat up all the benefits, hence it might not be worth it
The Pentium overdrive was a wild thing. They had the new out of order pipelines, but not the cache I believe, as this was still on the motherboard.
Well imo its way better than just switching everything to ai
Ofc no ai would be great but we all know that is not Happening
plot twist, its an ai bot training on how to get reactions on reddit
Lulz am I really a bot? I'm a real human.
That's what bot would say
Did you have a stroke?
Do you taste metal?
Who is Lulz? Is he holding you against your will?
They literally have a new part in the CPU. What else are they going to call them?
Can you clarify your complaint?
yea they kinda didnt. it's just a new product line. you can still get a laptop with a fire range (zen5m) cpus
what, you know desktop cpu-s are still as dope as older ryzens, right?
AI CPUs have a copilot plus compliant powerful NPU, non AI CPUs don't? Seems simple enough...
As if to emphasize just how little that NPU actually does, it's only on their laptop CPUs.
I also never really grasped the concept of processing AI on the PC at home... the whole thing about AI is how power hungry the neural nets are. a little NPU sitting on your PC isn't going to do much.
Same with phones - when I select "Process all content on my device" the phone's AI is essentially disabled.
It works better on pc
Probably, but again, it's a laptop - compute power of the NPU isn't comparable to the cloud data processing most models need to process stolen IP and repurpose it into whatever.
NPUs are useful for other use cases too, it's not a bad feature