((asking as a vegetarian who is very loving of chickens )).If everyone went vegan tmmr what do y'all think would happen to the meat chickens(specifically Cornish crosses)? As y'all know there are SOOO many meat chickens in the world, what would happen to them all? Considering they have quite a bad life after like 10 weeks, ((some get too fat they can't even move, some have heart issues, they're a really terrible breed.)) and it requires so much effort to look after them, what would happen? Would they just have to be humanely euthanized as very little would be able to be good pets with a good life ? How do y'all propose things to happen? Ive been thinking about it over the past few days loll... *((Most meat chickens are Cornish crosses, they're not built for life after 8 weeks and can suffer immensely due to how unnatural their body's are. A lot would have bad life quality's and they would have to be on strict diets due to the fact they are constantly hungry and as there is so many In the world (billions) I don't know how manageable that would be as it would require so much care/vets, it's horrible how we treat these guys :(. )) Maybe a few could be rlly good pets, but I'm talking on the majority which is *billions of them.
The most important thing is to stop producing animals which are incapable of living good lives. For the existing generation, there is not much we can do.
Ohh yeah that's true. I thought that might be an answer, thank U sm!
Do you think this is going to happen? I guess I'm confused why non-vegans ask this so often. You're not vegan, do you really see a situation where everyone goes vegan all at once? If so, when are you planning to make your switch?
Isn't that the goal? To stop animal exploitation (which would cause most people in the world to be vegan?) if you don't have the answer to my question why even bother commenting. I'll make the switch when my pet chickens all die lmao / the implants become more accessible in my area. I'm already vegetarian and eat very little milk and cheese (cuz I don't like it and I'm lactose intolerant) the only time I eat stuff like that is when it is in things like muffins(which I eat very rarely). And it should be easy enough to make them vegan.
Yes, that's our goal. But people like you respond with "lmao" so, again, why do you think this is something vegans seriously have to plan for? What indication do you have that everyone will go vegan all at once?
If it's easy to make vegan muffins, then DO THAT. You can be vegan.
It's just weird to see non-vegans post this question almost daily but fail to consider how implausible it is. It feels like a deliberate attempt to stall any action on their parts, like you decide not to be vegan until someone gives you a plan for a fully vegan world.
The lmao was just a filler word. As said before, I do not eat any meat, I've never eaten chicken, I've never supported the chicken meat industry in the slightest. I'm asking a genuine question so why bother even being in this sub if you don't want to answer questions from primarily omnvis lmao. Say if it happened over a few years, would you just want ppls to slow down on consumption, so the last cornish xs get eaten so they die out? That's one thing I thought about and is probably what you think would happen by your non-answers/attempts to cause fights.
No, I don't want people to kill chickens to eat them. Please don't attribute thoughts to people, especially when you're comically bad at it.
Should I insert an "lmao" as filler? Will that make it clearer?
My point is that non-vegans ask this all the time. It's not a serious question, as there is no reasonable scenario where everyone will go vegan all at once. It comes across as a deflection from what non-vegans actually CAN do.
My answer - this will never happen. But if you are concerned about how domesticated chickens are treated, you can do something about that today. You don't have to have a plan for a perfect post-vegan world today in order to decline to treat chickens poorly.
Wait Ur answer is saying a vegan world would never happen? That's a bit pessimistic lol.. also.. as said before.. I've never treated meat chickens poorly. So... Also I use lmao cuz I'm a teen and thats how most teens speak nowadays... 😭
By using lmao and lol, you’re basically showing that you’re ridiculing at all of the answers given to you. It’s rude.
Yes, I'm not sure what OP means by it being "filler," but it feels contemptuous.
Yup.
No, please read what I actually wrote.
I'm saying there is no plausible scenario where everyone on earth goes vegan at once. You know, the situation you specifically asked about?
I'm glad you don't treat meat chickens poorly. I encourage you to extend that treatment to chickens being exploited for eggs.
Thank you for letting me know that some teenagers use "lmao" as a filler. Usually when I'm in a conversation with a teenager they use words to indicate what they actually mean, but apparently there are exceptions.
I don’t know why you’re mocking folks responding to your question, but please realize that it’s a completely ridiculous question.
There will almost certainly never be a mass exodus of omnivores suddenly deciding to go vegan, and if anything remotely like that happens, it would have to be because of something like a loss of viable meat options, or mass disease in chickens.
What you COULD do is focus on you. Decide if veganism is right for you and occupy your mind with whatever your answer is, but you don’t need hypothetical situations to make yourself feel better about the fact that consuming milk and eggs takes precedence in your life over animal welfare.
Lmao did you read anything I said... I don't even like milk.. and am lactose intolerant. I eat eggs because I have pet chickens. Do you not think the world is able to become vegan at all? I mean iirc 1/17 teens in Aus identify as vegan/vegetarian even tho our country being a very big meat eating country, that's even less in Germany (I believe it's 1/14.) *these may be wrong as I just got them out of my memory from what I can remember reading. I'm pretty confident tho. So the way this is going, a lot more people will be vegan / vege. So what will happen to the meat chickens? Most ppls agree they'll just be eaten and die out.
The question you're asking is what would happen if everyone went vegan tomorrow. There will never be such a big overnight shift, so it's not worth thinking about. If a large conversion to veganism does happen, it will be a long process. And as demand for livestock reduces, fewer and fewer livestock animals will be bred. There will be a gradual transition.
This is similar to the hypotheticals about what we would do if we got stranded on a desert island. It is extremely unlikely to happen to any modern vegan, so why waste time on hypotheticals that have such minuscule probabilities?
Yep true true. Thank U.. I mean they still make you do "what if you got stranded on an desert island" and this weird survival thing at school. Soo maybe cultural differences on how we spend our brain power.
These are two distinct statements. You can believe that the world is able to be vegan and also acknowledge that there is no realistic scenario where everyone on earth will go vegan at the same time.
1/17 is ~5%, which tracks with the overall estimates of Australian vegans.
Well they have pretty short lifespans so the turnover is pretty short. I would image people would just kill and maybe eat the currently living ones and stop breeding them
Yeah that's what I thought.. maybe feed them to wildlife sanctuaries (euthanized) or smth is another thing I thought. Tysm!
Nothing is done ‘humanely’ to meat animals. You must know there is no anesthesia. The only point of the industry is maximum profit and any measure that reduced pain would cost money.
Mass culls of animals bred for the meat industry are not unusual now. If a virus is found in the population, etc. they are just dumped alive in mass graves to suffocate.
Since we know ‘everybody going vegan tomorrow’ is impossible this doesn’t strike me as a topic worth spending mental energy on.
Yep true true. Wait but why even use mental energy to comment then?
This question gets asked literally every single day. There is no situation in which everyone goes vegan overnight. It’s not even a rational thought. IF consumption slows it will be over decades and farmers will slowly scale back accordingly. It’s a non issue about caring for a massive influx of meat animals.
Wouldn't there still be chickens left over tho?
Why? Farmers breed what sells. Let’s say typically they process 1,000 chickens every 8 weeks. If it starts taking 8.5 weeks for their chickens to sell then then start raising 950 or 900. Farmers don’t want to lose money and processed animals that don’t sell is money lost so they scale back. This has proven true in every industry since the beginning of time. It’s the absolute most simple concept of supply and demand. In a theoretical world where things have dwindled down to where the last handful of farmers can’t sell their chickens they would process them, toss them in their own freezer or give them to friends, and not raise another generation.
That depends on what the corporations that own them want to do with them. They would likely breed fewer over time as demand lessens.
Also here’s context for people who are unfamiliar with Cornish Crosses.
Yeah that is very very true. Thank U!!! 😁
No problem!
Also Ty for the link for Cornish crosses!! It just shows how sad their breed is :((( 🩷
The same thing that usually happens to the animal products in someone's fridge when they go vegan. They get eaten and then that's it.
Yeah that's probably what would happen. Thank U for answering!!!
There’s no scenario where everyone goes vegan all at once overnight. More and more people slowly go vegan, demand for chicken flesh declines, fewer chickens are bred, and gradually this number reaches 0 for chickens bred for this purpose.
Yeah but wouldn't there still be chickens left over?
Why would there be? If so, no one would buy them and they’d be disposed of? It’s not rocket science.
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This is a what if that won’t ever happen. Things unfortunately move slowly. However, in the instance that it did happen, they would likely be rehomed to sanctuaries or peoples yards as family. I’ve seen it a couple times when egg places were shut down, 1000s of birds rehomed. Chooks are amazing garden friends.
Yeah sad. Chickens are amazing friends. :) I believe in Japanese they're called guarden birds haha 😂. Love them sm.
The pet food industry would still exist, unless this is an instance where cultured/lab-grown meat that obligate carnivores (cats) can consume has taken over.
The males are ground up same day as hatching. So most of them would be hens. What wou you suggest? A steward or foster program?
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Cornish cross chickens can actually live good, long lives with appropriate care. This includes maintaining a restricted diet and keeping them usually in flocks of only Cornish crosses, or otherwise maintaining their diets correctly. There are sanctuaries that have Cornish cross birds who are 7-8+ years old. Just as with most situations around non-humans and their care, the idea that these individuals simply can't live good lives is a myth.