Also one of the architects of Operation Condor; which killed hundreds of thousands of South Americans and led to multiple far-right governments in the region.
700k people died of covid in Brazil under Bolsonaro. Scientists estimate that around 300k of these deaths could've been avoided if the president had been responsible and taken covid seriously. Yes, colonization, wars, and dictatorship killed a bunch, but we're talking individuals. Yet, for some 30% of people, Bolsonaro, who's currently in jail, is still the messiah and did nothing wrong.
Never realized how brutal the Iran Iraq war was until recently. There’s a real irony that Saddan unjustly invaded Iran and Kuwait, and then the US unjustly invaded Iraq
Tbf desert storm was fully justifiable and Bush Sr did the right thing not pushing into Baghdad for what he knew would be a prolonged and painful occupation.
Saddam was not gonna stop at Kuwait and was most likely gonna invade Saudi Arabia also which would destabilize the entire worlds oil supply. That's why the Saudis willingly even to the point begged the US to stop Saddam. He did have the 4th largest army in the world at the time and they were very battle hardened after a decade of war with Iran. Say what you want but without stable supply of oil we wouldn't be anywhere near as advanced as we are now to the point we can and have already found better more suitable renewable sources of energy. Also oil is in literally everything from the plastics and plethora of other substances gained from refining crude oil to make virtually everything. The clothes you wear, all the tech we use, medications, furniture, microchips etc all made from not only the energy of oil but substances refinded from crude oil.
42 countries all agreed what Saddam did was bad and needed to be stopped. Saddam went to war with Iran, killed a bunch of people, went into debt and thought “killing more people should fix this!” The guy was as insane as he was an idiot. The Gulf War was completely justified. The second one sure as shit wasn’t but people love to conflate the two.
This! Gulf war 1 was completely justifiable unlike gulf war 2 which had no merit at all. Literally the king of Saudi Arabia asked the US to intervene in pushing Saddam out of Kuwait for gulf war 1. He would've never done that especially knowing having that amount of foreign troops on Saudi soil would never be accepted by the people unless there was extreme justification. Guess people think it's ok for a psychopath to invade another country just so he won't have to pay them back the 10s of billions he owed them for war against Iran.
The US liked him when he used chemical weapons against his own people and invading Iran. Even supported him. Kuwait had US interest in the oil that's why he became an enneny.
I suppose it’s Jefferson Davis. Over 700,000 Americans died in our civil war and he was the president of the confederacy. Today’s neo-confederates and lost causers might blame Lincoln or Grant. Davis isn’t as revered as much as Lee.
The AP US History teacher at my Georgia HS called it that and refused to teach it. she made you read about it and do packets but wouldn’t really talk about it. Early 2000s
I used to. Then I stopped being a fucking idiot, actually learned properly what happened, and realized the south was clearly the aggressor and more than asked for it.
And Lee being put on a pedestal as anything more than an average overall general baffles me. He never won a battle outside of Virginia. Any time he had the opportunity to go on the offensive and seize initiative, he did not do well.
I digress, but also thought of Davis originally too. But maybe he was just a symptom of the movement going on in the South. Would someone else have just taken his place?
Lee never made any horrific blunders until Gettysburg and he managed to win when he was outnumbered and often outdone logistically.
That being said, I've always wondered how successful he'd have been if A) Union generals weren't so completely incompetent B) Stayed loyal and was made General of the Army as Winfield Scott wanted.
Someone used a baseball WAR scoring system to make a crude calculation of the aptitude of generals by pulling wikipedia data on numerous battles. The system was done by estimating how well an "average" general would've done under the battle conditions faced by any given general in each war they fought, then comparing that to how well the general actually did. It's entirely for fun and probably not the best metric to use, but the results were really interesting.
According to this crude method, Lee wasn't all that great and in fact got a negative score. By contrast, Grant was one of the top ten scorers. Clearly set apart from all the other top 10 scorers was Julius Caesar, and again far above him was Napoleon who was the overall highest scorer and a massive outlier. Based on the model, the average general gets scored a 0, Caesar got around 7 and Napoleon got 17 cos the guy fought and won so many battles against so many opponents.
Though we should also note that the dataset is somewhat limited. For instance, you'll notice no Mongols on there lol
I mean you’re technically probably right, and I dont want to make excuses for Jefferson Davis (he was a horrible person), but he wasn’t some popular megalomaniacal dictator in the way that Stalin or Hitler were. It’s not like his ideas rallied people around fighting for the south. He was more just a figurehead for the elite plantation owners
Well tbf that wasn't intentional. But Columbus might make for a good shot anyway since while he never killed anyone deliberately, he also didn't give a fuck if any of the natives under his control lived or died, and a huge mass of them died - not even from smallpox, but just really terrible conditions they were placed in. Dude was so bad the Spanish royals - not exactly angels themselves - had to tell him to chill.
I was horrified when I read more about the great wrath. I never thought that such a dark chapter was bypassed in Russian history textbooks. The funny thing is that with all this, Peter the Great is considered just an "ambiguous" personality and mostly talks about his reforms and his good deeds
many dark chapters are bypassed. i dont think Russian history books have holodomors in Ukraine mentioned correctly - with all the horrors it brought to ua territory and how they were different
Just found out that he first came to Poland and Moravia and fought there with our King Vaclav I., but lost, propably only because he fought strong Polish army and ours in a short time. Only then he decided to go South to Hungary. So it would probably be us instead if he didn’t won.
I mean didn't go for Djibouti - just Djibouti is very short lived so I went for the wider definition of "people" (the largest ethnicity of Djibouti are Somalis ).
Ethiopia's would definitely be Mengistu Haile Mariam, the communist leader of Ethiopia.
500 000 people killed in 1965, accused to be communist. The US was complicit. Film: « the art of killing » interviews elders who participated in this massive slaughter. Have you ever heard about it?
Directly? Probably Richard Sackler and his leadership in Purdue Pharma. Over 700k deaths.
Indirectly? The mismanagement of the COVID-19 epidemic seems high up there. If only there was some sort of national plan and direction to assist the states in management... Oh well... I can't imagine whoever was in charge leading anything after that.
Though 700k is probably the ballpark for deaths from mismanaged COVID as well. 1.2m total US deaths and it's hard to say how many fewer would have died if it was better managed.
If we're gonna allow directly and indirectly, I'd say Andrew Jackson deserves a dishonorable mention. He basically kicked off the movement that became Manifest Destiny through the Indian Removal Act and the Trail of Tears. Tribal populations went from an estimated ~800k-1M down to ~200k by the end of the 19th century. Thomas Jefferson gets some of that blame too for stating that they had to assimilate or GTFO, but Andrew Jackson took that ball and ran with it. And we have that bastard's face on our damn money.
Hmmm, Peel was only PM for about the first half of the first year of the famine. He made some efforts to mitigate the effects of it to the point that he lost his job because of it - he repealed the Corn Laws to make food more affordable which was extremely unpopular with his own landowning class party and this got him booted as PM.
The famine got exponentially more nasty once he was gone and the Whigs took over with their unwillingness to provide basically any kind of meaningful relief.
I’d say John Russel the guy after Peel is more culpable for the great famine. Since Peel was really only the PM for the very beginning of the famine and at least made attempts to mitigate it. Russel did nothing and was in charge for the vast majority of the famine.
He supposedly died due to complications due to malaria and kidney stones disease, having contracted malaria in Cork.
Quinine was the only treatment for malaria at that time and he refused to take it as it had been discovered by Jesuits.
Hopefully he died screaming.
Enver Pasha (one of the main perpetrators of the Armenian genocide) was also an incompetent military leader. He deployed an army to the Caucasus against the Russians in the dead of winter, and while on route 60,000 to 90,000 soldiers froze to death in Sarıkamış.
He's also one of the main responsibles in basically forcing Ottoman Empire to join WWI by letting Goeben and Breslau through Bosporus under Turkish flag and letting them bombard Sevastopol.
And he's commonly regarded as a hero of all things
And longest fascist to stay in power... love how nobody recalls that and talk about Benito and Adolf when Paquito stood in power until he died and nobody NOBODY did shit about it. My father used to say that his generation gave us democracy and one day I was so tired of his shit that I just said "you all just waited until he was dead to even speak about freedom you did nothing, it just happened in your time but not because your generation".
Honestly, that's less than Haig in WW1. We also had our own... Debatable officers in France, and we are forever gratefull for what the british people did. But Haig did much more than 150k british casualties between the Somme and Passchendaele.
I wonder what Boris Johnson's toll is. What might the COVID death toll have been if he'd actually followed scientific advice?
Probably not enough to take the top spot, but a dishonorable mention.
We also had a bunch of deaths in the early pioneer days - particularly Chinese workers and natives.
John A. Macdonald is not well regarded for his role in developing the Indian residential school system. He's not on the $10 bill anymore, and some streets that were named after him are getting changed to something else.
I mean thousands of indigenous were killed in residential schools.. so the Catholic church is up there as shitty Canadian villains but we HAVE to respect religion for some reason so they're beloved
Theres a reason that the European Powers quickly went from "oh hey theres a chance we get a more friendly Christian China out of this" to "eh maybe not, we're good with the current guys"
The leaders of the cartels. Their bullshit has caused the deaths of many Mexicans. But corrupt mexican politicians cover for them, so they are to blame as well.
Andrew Jackson orchestrated one of America's first ethnic cleansing with the trail of tears. He was also fond of beating people to death personally. He's our current president's favorite president.
Ronald Reagan created an illegal drug problem in the states to keep black people oppressed and i guess make money to sell terrorists guns. In a lot of ways, any death during the stupid "war on drugs" should fall back to him since he was the one who created the initial infrastructure for large scale illegal drug sale in america. He is also directly responsible for killings done with the weapons he sold terrorists.
Henry Kissinger might be one of our worst though, since he not only has a crazy high kill count from his bombing of Vietnam and all the surrounding states despite them being uninvolved. He also routinely sabotaged peace talks. His reckless bombing of Cambodia drove people to the khmer rouge as well, so I attribute some of that horror to Kissinger.
The deaths must be directly caused by this individual’s own actions, and the criterion is purely the highest death toll—not the most malicious nature or the most lasting harm. The person may be a citizen or a foreigner.
King Leopold of Belgium committed terrible atrocities in the Congo, resulting in the deaths of 10 million Congolese. His regime forced locals to work on rubber plantations, and if they didn’t meet quotas, they faced brutal punishments like having their limbs amputated. One image that still haunts me shows a father next to his three-year-old daughter’s severed hand because she refused to pick rubber. Belgium doesn’t get the recognition it deserves for atrocities committed.
I have visited a Ukrainian Restaurant in Vancouver, BC. The food was delicious but about half way through I went to use the bathroom. There were two urinals and each of them had a single laminated picture you had to piss on to use the urinal. One had a picture of Stalin and one had a picture of Putin.
This is so cool! I would go every 30 minutes. Usually its a fly painted in the urinal to avoid spilling around. But a Putin or Stalin to piss on is wayyy better.
He diverted food and ships away from India to Europe, even when Bengal was starving. He blocked grain imports to Bengal. He prioritized British troops and stockpiles while civilians died. He dismissed Indian suffering with racist comments
When told Indians were dying,
Churchill reportedly said…
“They breed like rabbits.”
he was a racist azzhole .
Millions died while the empire that ruled them decided they weren’t worth saving.
also...USA , look into history of genocide of native americans !
Small point, but keep in mind China stopped releasing figures. Even conservative estimates put their count well above 1 million. Still for history of US its an insane number
Probably Karl XII aka Carolus Rex. Dude not only got his whole army annihilated with his stupidity he also drained so many resources from Sweden there was massive problems and Sweden's era of great power ended.
He's shockingly liked mostly because he inherited such a good army from his father that people thought he was responsible for the military victories.
To his defence, it was the other ones who declared war on us because they wanted to end our power era. But sure, maybe he could have been smarter in his descensions when the war had started.
Interesting, that here you are pointing at the aggressor (justified), while in other comment you guilt the leader of country defending against aggression...
For Poland, I think Swedish king charles x gustav. His invasion on Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth caused death of ~half of population. Worst time ever to live in Poland, only comparable is WWII
In percentage of the population at that time: at least 5-10 contenders, examples like Bai Qi, Ying Zheng, Jia Nanfeng, An Lushan, Genghis Khan, Hong Xiuquan aka Jesus's Brother.
Basically every 200 years, a brutal war happened and 60-90% of the entire population died.
Quite possibly Thomas Midgley Jr. He was responsible for leaded gasoline and CFCs. The amount of lives, shortened as well as the violence and crippling stupid world wide caused by leaded gasoline cannot even be well estimated.
I dont know really if theres been anyone who has caused a lot of deaths in the country. At least not someone who 100% existed and we are able to confirm their actions.
The only ones i can really think of are people from the landnáma stories. As in the stories passed down through time from the settling of Iceland by viking warriors.
Allegedly there was a lot of revenge killings and stuff going on back then. But i do recall a teacher saying that if the death toll was real, then icelanders would have died out long ago. Whether thats factual i do not know.
Nature tends to be the biggest cause of death through history in Iceland. Natural disasters causing famine and stuff.
This is very tough, our dictators are very competitive at killing people so I don't really know.
Freedom will come, stay strong!
You too, my friend, you too!
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I do not wish to talk about it.
It's Beethoven, isn't it?
Okay here is the offer: You take our guy with the silly mustache - we get the deaf composer. Deal?
The greatest trick Austria ever pulled was convincing the world that Beethoven was Austrian and the other guy was German.
Our greatest trick was to start two world wars and put all the blame on the Germans lol.
That's a good trick! Well that and spinning
The usual suspects…
That's some art of the deal right there
pass. But we can take Falco in exchange for Dieter Bohlen.
HARD PASS!
I think the bigger lesson to be learned from all of this is to not mess with Balkans anymore.
It could have all been solved so peaceful.
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I told Franz not to take the convertible!
Such a bad dog.
Im glad the Austrians are claiming that guy for change.
Germans just have to claim Goebbels and Himmler and Eichmann instead.
But we do!
Understandable.
Same.
In the plus column are Wiener schnitzel and pastries.
Pinochet, regarded by most chileans as a dictator and a thief.
Also one of the architects of Operation Condor; which killed hundreds of thousands of South Americans and led to multiple far-right governments in the region.
Kast is one of the architects, or Pinochet was?
I assume you mean Pinochet.
Nixon & Kissinger giving those mf's free reign to do all of that Condor shit - despicable.
He does have a catchy theme song
I gotta say Bolsonaro for COVID mismanagement. Fuck that guy.
700k people died of covid in Brazil under Bolsonaro. Scientists estimate that around 300k of these deaths could've been avoided if the president had been responsible and taken covid seriously. Yes, colonization, wars, and dictatorship killed a bunch, but we're talking individuals. Yet, for some 30% of people, Bolsonaro, who's currently in jail, is still the messiah and did nothing wrong.
Eu tava procurando quem ia ser o brasil kkkk mas realmente foi uma boa escolha. Faz bastante sentido
Pedro II exterminating Paraguayans, which many historians consider a genocide, is also a good contender.
Edit: please ignore the comment, I didn’t properly read the title of the post.
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Saddam Hossein in modern times
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Genghis in all time I think
Any honorable mention to Timurlane on that one?
Yo Sadam I'm real happy for you and Imma let you finish. But Genghis killed the most Persians of all time. OF ALL TIME!
Didn’t even read the whole thing and Kanye’s voice was already reading it in my mind lol
He created SO many bloodlines too...sheesh
Also destroyed several bloodlines
Probably has the high score in amount of countries he's the number one killer of
Never realized how brutal the Iran Iraq war was until recently. There’s a real irony that Saddan unjustly invaded Iran and Kuwait, and then the US unjustly invaded Iraq
That war was 50% the US. Then Desert Storm. The Iraqi Freedom.
Bush 1 and two might actually be the leaders in that clubhouse.
Tbf desert storm was fully justifiable and Bush Sr did the right thing not pushing into Baghdad for what he knew would be a prolonged and painful occupation.
Saddam was not gonna stop at Kuwait and was most likely gonna invade Saudi Arabia also which would destabilize the entire worlds oil supply. That's why the Saudis willingly even to the point begged the US to stop Saddam. He did have the 4th largest army in the world at the time and they were very battle hardened after a decade of war with Iran. Say what you want but without stable supply of oil we wouldn't be anywhere near as advanced as we are now to the point we can and have already found better more suitable renewable sources of energy. Also oil is in literally everything from the plastics and plethora of other substances gained from refining crude oil to make virtually everything. The clothes you wear, all the tech we use, medications, furniture, microchips etc all made from not only the energy of oil but substances refinded from crude oil.
42 countries all agreed what Saddam did was bad and needed to be stopped. Saddam went to war with Iran, killed a bunch of people, went into debt and thought “killing more people should fix this!” The guy was as insane as he was an idiot. The Gulf War was completely justified. The second one sure as shit wasn’t but people love to conflate the two.
This! Gulf war 1 was completely justifiable unlike gulf war 2 which had no merit at all. Literally the king of Saudi Arabia asked the US to intervene in pushing Saddam out of Kuwait for gulf war 1. He would've never done that especially knowing having that amount of foreign troops on Saudi soil would never be accepted by the people unless there was extreme justification. Guess people think it's ok for a psychopath to invade another country just so he won't have to pay them back the 10s of billions he owed them for war against Iran.
The US liked him when he used chemical weapons against his own people and invading Iran. Even supported him. Kuwait had US interest in the oil that's why he became an enneny.
hey thats ours >:(
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I suppose it’s Jefferson Davis. Over 700,000 Americans died in our civil war and he was the president of the confederacy. Today’s neo-confederates and lost causers might blame Lincoln or Grant. Davis isn’t as revered as much as Lee.
May that slavery loving traitor forever rest in piss
But he's not dead yet. Oh, you guys were still talking about Davis.
Are there genuinely people out there blaming Lincoln for the civil war?
You've never heard it called the "War of Northern Aggression"?
Yeah. The war of Northern Aggression that started with the South firing on Northern forces.
Fort Sumter was like "Since 5:45am we're firing back!" (Adolf Hitler on Sep 1st, 1939). Pre-emptive self-defense!
The North famously shelling themselves at Ft. Sumter.
Not until my sister moved to Virginia I hadn't
The AP US History teacher at my Georgia HS called it that and refused to teach it. she made you read about it and do packets but wouldn’t really talk about it. Early 2000s
I heard of some Southern families having portraits of John Wilkes Booth on their fireplace mantles as late as the First World War.
I used to. Then I stopped being a fucking idiot, actually learned properly what happened, and realized the south was clearly the aggressor and more than asked for it.
And Lee being put on a pedestal as anything more than an average overall general baffles me. He never won a battle outside of Virginia. Any time he had the opportunity to go on the offensive and seize initiative, he did not do well.
I digress, but also thought of Davis originally too. But maybe he was just a symptom of the movement going on in the South. Would someone else have just taken his place?
It's a hard one.
Lee never made any horrific blunders until Gettysburg and he managed to win when he was outnumbered and often outdone logistically.
That being said, I've always wondered how successful he'd have been if A) Union generals weren't so completely incompetent B) Stayed loyal and was made General of the Army as Winfield Scott wanted.
Someone used a baseball WAR scoring system to make a crude calculation of the aptitude of generals by pulling wikipedia data on numerous battles. The system was done by estimating how well an "average" general would've done under the battle conditions faced by any given general in each war they fought, then comparing that to how well the general actually did. It's entirely for fun and probably not the best metric to use, but the results were really interesting.
According to this crude method, Lee wasn't all that great and in fact got a negative score. By contrast, Grant was one of the top ten scorers. Clearly set apart from all the other top 10 scorers was Julius Caesar, and again far above him was Napoleon who was the overall highest scorer and a massive outlier. Based on the model, the average general gets scored a 0, Caesar got around 7 and Napoleon got 17 cos the guy fought and won so many battles against so many opponents.
Though we should also note that the dataset is somewhat limited. For instance, you'll notice no Mongols on there lol
Lee was a great tactician but not necessarily a great strategist as his two invasions of the North proved.
I mean you’re technically probably right, and I dont want to make excuses for Jefferson Davis (he was a horrible person), but he wasn’t some popular megalomaniacal dictator in the way that Stalin or Hitler were. It’s not like his ideas rallied people around fighting for the south. He was more just a figurehead for the elite plantation owners
I bet he's not. The problem is that the REAL mass killers in US history weren't using bullets...
Ex:
Thomas Midgley Jr. invented lead gasoline. Here's Veritasium's video about him titled "The Man Who Accidentally Killed The Most People In History"
The Sackler family is pretty uniquely responsible for the US drug epidemic.
RFK Jr is on track to killing most Americans in the current administration - unless Hegseth stars a war. And possibly for all time.
More than 700,000 possibly according to a more recent study, perhaps as high as 850,000.
Whoever bought small pox over from Europe has him beat, probably by an order of magnitude.
Well tbf that wasn't intentional. But Columbus might make for a good shot anyway since while he never killed anyone deliberately, he also didn't give a fuck if any of the natives under his control lived or died, and a huge mass of them died - not even from smallpox, but just really terrible conditions they were placed in. Dude was so bad the Spanish royals - not exactly angels themselves - had to tell him to chill.
Intent isn't part of the question
Probably JV Snellman. See Finnish famine
He's considered a hero as he was opening the way for independence.
On the other hand we were under Russian rule, so could also name Peter the Great. See Great Wrath for example.
I was horrified when I read more about the great wrath. I never thought that such a dark chapter was bypassed in Russian history textbooks. The funny thing is that with all this, Peter the Great is considered just an "ambiguous" personality and mostly talks about his reforms and his good deeds
many dark chapters are bypassed. i dont think Russian history books have holodomors in Ukraine mentioned correctly - with all the horrors it brought to ua territory and how they were different
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Batu Khan
I think this is enough information for everyone…
But according to our government he was a peace loving bro
Were a lot of people in Hungary at that time Cumans?
I think the avrege person isn't aware of most events that happened in other countries in the 13th century.
Depending on who you consider to be history nerd maybe even most history nerds don't know about this.
Just found out that he first came to Poland and Moravia and fought there with our King Vaclav I., but lost, propably only because he fought strong Polish army and ours in a short time. Only then he decided to go South to Hungary. So it would probably be us instead if he didn’t won.
Would you be so kind as to repeat that name?
You all know that individual
Mustache²
Hes austrian
OP said it could be foreigners
It's the same.
Djibouti is quite short lived. So I'll expand the definition:
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Mohammed Siad Barre
Oh I've heard of this guy. I suppose Somalia could say the same, maybe Ethiopia too? But I didn't know he also went for Djibouti.
I mean didn't go for Djibouti - just Djibouti is very short lived so I went for the wider definition of "people" (the largest ethnicity of Djibouti are Somalis ).
Ethiopia's would definitely be Mengistu Haile Mariam, the communist leader of Ethiopia.
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A national hero, according to his ex-son in law who's now the president of this country.
500 000 people killed in 1965, accused to be communist. The US was complicit. Film: « the art of killing » interviews elders who participated in this massive slaughter. Have you ever heard about it?
Directly? Probably Richard Sackler and his leadership in Purdue Pharma. Over 700k deaths.
Indirectly? The mismanagement of the COVID-19 epidemic seems high up there. If only there was some sort of national plan and direction to assist the states in management... Oh well... I can't imagine whoever was in charge leading anything after that.
Gotta love a mishandling....
If only there was some type of leader in a centralized role who could have encouraged states to follow a certain protocol...
Though 700k is probably the ballpark for deaths from mismanaged COVID as well. 1.2m total US deaths and it's hard to say how many fewer would have died if it was better managed.
If we're gonna allow directly and indirectly, I'd say Andrew Jackson deserves a dishonorable mention. He basically kicked off the movement that became Manifest Destiny through the Indian Removal Act and the Trail of Tears. Tribal populations went from an estimated ~800k-1M down to ~200k by the end of the 19th century. Thomas Jefferson gets some of that blame too for stating that they had to assimilate or GTFO, but Andrew Jackson took that ball and ran with it. And we have that bastard's face on our damn money.
I think Thomas Midgley Jr. has rhst honor.
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Oliver cromwell
He wasn't even the Englishman who killed the most Irish. That would probably be Peel, the PM during the potato famine.
I think he means directly - by order.
Hmmm, Peel was only PM for about the first half of the first year of the famine. He made some efforts to mitigate the effects of it to the point that he lost his job because of it - he repealed the Corn Laws to make food more affordable which was extremely unpopular with his own landowning class party and this got him booted as PM.
The famine got exponentially more nasty once he was gone and the Whigs took over with their unwillingness to provide basically any kind of meaningful relief.
He Peeled our Potatoes
He did kill the most relative to total population at the time though, estimates I’ve seen are about 20%, as opposed to the famines ~8.5%
That's the most cautious estimate as well. There are some estimates that are much higher if you include indirect deaths.
I’d say John Russel the guy after Peel is more culpable for the great famine. Since Peel was really only the PM for the very beginning of the famine and at least made attempts to mitigate it. Russel did nothing and was in charge for the vast majority of the famine.
He supposedly died due to complications due to malaria and kidney stones disease, having contracted malaria in Cork. Quinine was the only treatment for malaria at that time and he refused to take it as it had been discovered by Jesuits. Hopefully he died screaming.
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This Nazi
Love that his Wikipedia article has a happy end :)
We brought back the death penalty for one day just for him
Funny how that last name sounded kind of like a slur even before he turned it into one for real.
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Enver Pasha (one of the main perpetrators of the Armenian genocide) was also an incompetent military leader. He deployed an army to the Caucasus against the Russians in the dead of winter, and while on route 60,000 to 90,000 soldiers froze to death in Sarıkamış.
He's also one of the main responsibles in basically forcing Ottoman Empire to join WWI by letting Goeben and Breslau through Bosporus under Turkish flag and letting them bombard Sevastopol.
And he's commonly regarded as a hero of all things
Ronald McDonald the clown
Dudes probably got the highest body count world wide. Either him, the camel, or the cowboy!
What about the Kool-Aid Man? Millions from diabetes stateside, and about 900 more in Guyana.
Oh Yeah!
They all bloat down here
Francisco Franco, fascist dictator.
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And longest fascist to stay in power... love how nobody recalls that and talk about Benito and Adolf when Paquito stood in power until he died and nobody NOBODY did shit about it. My father used to say that his generation gave us democracy and one day I was so tired of his shit that I just said "you all just waited until he was dead to even speak about freedom you did nothing, it just happened in your time but not because your generation".
Was reading a book recently about the Spanish Civil War recently and my god, nationalist repression and persecution was very VERY brutal
In Spain we don't need foreigners to kill us. We gladly do it ourselves.
William the Conqueror. The Harrying of the North killed possibly as many as 150,000 English people and caused absolute devastation.
Honestly, that's less than Haig in WW1. We also had our own... Debatable officers in France, and we are forever gratefull for what the british people did. But Haig did much more than 150k british casualties between the Somme and Passchendaele.
I wonder what Boris Johnson's toll is. What might the COVID death toll have been if he'd actually followed scientific advice? Probably not enough to take the top spot, but a dishonorable mention.
"Boris Johnson accused of giving in to scientific advisers" is still one of my favorite all time headlines.
Didn't that recent report conclude that his decision to delay lockdown by a week resulted in about 23000 additional deaths?
So more than that I guess.
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This motherfucker
Seems like a sympathetic guy to me. Look at that smile, he can't possibly have done anything, right? /s
"Come on, does this guy look like a dictator to you? (*cough*)"
Isn’t he the Korean god /s
Adolf Hitler
He’s the reason I have 0 family remaining in Lithuania
are you from a lithuanian jewish family?
About 45,000 Canadians were killed in WW2, so, technically, it would be Hitler.
More were killed in WW1, but that war is more difficult to pin on a single person (and no, it was not Gavrilo Princip who started that war).
We also had a bunch of deaths in the early pioneer days - particularly Chinese workers and natives.
John A. Macdonald is not well regarded for his role in developing the Indian residential school system. He's not on the $10 bill anymore, and some streets that were named after him are getting changed to something else.
I mean thousands of indigenous were killed in residential schools.. so the Catholic church is up there as shitty Canadian villains but we HAVE to respect religion for some reason so they're beloved
If everything goes to shit in Europe again, Canada is the country i would know 100% would help.
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The reason my family’s ancestral city has zero Armenians…
As a Turk, also i can mention him
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For last 100 years, Mao and Chiang.
For the last 200 years, Probably that Jesus Christ's brother dude.
You got me to check on the Taiping Rebellion. I'm all ".... the fuck"
Theres a reason that the European Powers quickly went from "oh hey theres a chance we get a more friendly Christian China out of this" to "eh maybe not, we're good with the current guys"
Hirohito probably also did like 20m, but maaaybe that's still fewer than these two guys...
Chinese history is brutal
The leaders of the cartels. Their bullshit has caused the deaths of many Mexicans. But corrupt mexican politicians cover for them, so they are to blame as well.
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Andrew Jackson orchestrated one of America's first ethnic cleansing with the trail of tears. He was also fond of beating people to death personally. He's our current president's favorite president.
Ronald Reagan created an illegal drug problem in the states to keep black people oppressed and i guess make money to sell terrorists guns. In a lot of ways, any death during the stupid "war on drugs" should fall back to him since he was the one who created the initial infrastructure for large scale illegal drug sale in america. He is also directly responsible for killings done with the weapons he sold terrorists.
Henry Kissinger might be one of our worst though, since he not only has a crazy high kill count from his bombing of Vietnam and all the surrounding states despite them being uninvolved. He also routinely sabotaged peace talks. His reckless bombing of Cambodia drove people to the khmer rouge as well, so I attribute some of that horror to Kissinger.
The deaths must be directly caused by this individual’s own actions, and the criterion is purely the highest death toll—not the most malicious nature or the most lasting harm. The person may be a citizen or a foreigner.
King Leopold of Belgium committed terrible atrocities in the Congo, resulting in the deaths of 10 million Congolese. His regime forced locals to work on rubber plantations, and if they didn’t meet quotas, they faced brutal punishments like having their limbs amputated. One image that still haunts me shows a father next to his three-year-old daughter’s severed hand because she refused to pick rubber. Belgium doesn’t get the recognition it deserves for atrocities committed.
Those two from the pictures above
Ed. Another one would be one Austrians and Germans... you know
In this regard we are not that different.
I have visited a Ukrainian Restaurant in Vancouver, BC. The food was delicious but about half way through I went to use the bathroom. There were two urinals and each of them had a single laminated picture you had to piss on to use the urinal. One had a picture of Stalin and one had a picture of Putin.
This is so cool! I would go every 30 minutes. Usually its a fly painted in the urinal to avoid spilling around. But a Putin or Stalin to piss on is wayyy better.
Mao the Bacon, the great.
In modern history probably Hitler with how many soldiers were killed and civilians bombed.
We actually lost far more in WW1, Hitler was by far the greater evil but for the UK I think Wilhelm II is likely the more correct answer
Wasn’t it the British that declared war in WW1, making the British government of WW1 responsible for the deaths?
A Georgian and a Finn
edit: in reference to OP's pick
For Romania, probably the Mongols so Batu Khan
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The Bengal Famine. He isn't much regarded in India at all, but if anyone knows him it is in a negative light.
In world war people think he's the one who try to resist Nazi and make him hero but he was responsible for the million people's death.
he was an azzhole
He diverted food and ships away from India to Europe, even when Bengal was starving. He blocked grain imports to Bengal. He prioritized British troops and stockpiles while civilians died. He dismissed Indian suffering with racist comments
When told Indians were dying,
Churchill reportedly said…
“They breed like rabbits.”
he was a racist azzhole .
Millions died while the empire that ruled them decided they weren’t worth saving.
also...USA , look into history of genocide of native americans !
20th century: Ronald Reagan. His inaction on the AIDS crisis lead to 600,000 deaths.
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Oh wow, was the AIDs crisis really that bad??? Why did he ignore it?
edit: Oh wow, I just looked it up. Its even higher. 700000. Insane
Because they were gay
Damn, that's not good. It's crazy how homophobic the world used to be. It's even crazier that it was in the 80s when that occurred. Sad
Homophobia
21st century: Donald Trump. His inaction on COVID-19 led to 1 million deaths, the most of any country on Earth by sheer number.
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Small point, but keep in mind China stopped releasing figures. Even conservative estimates put their count well above 1 million. Still for history of US its an insane number
If we talk about the entire history of a country, it’s really hard to list who caused the most deaths.
Throughout our five thousand years of history, there have been many wars, famines, and plagues that resulted in tens of millions of deaths.
For example, during the Three Kingdoms period, China’s death toll was around 30–40 million.
During the Taiping Rebellion, the deaths were about 20–70 million.
And during World War II, the number of deaths in China was around 35 million.
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Franco. 200k-400k killed because of him.
Some people in the far right and some old guys still love him and think we were better with him.
The left despises him and the rest do not really care.
Its ironic how the Franco nostalgics/apologists are the same ones who can't stop bitching about "the woke dictatorship"
Either Hitler or Stalin
Stalin. We see him as a bloody murderer and scum.
So do we
Filipp goloschyokin Despised, as he should be
Dom Manuel I.
The number of indigenous deaths on the Brazilian coast was ridiculously high in the early years of contact with the Portuguese.
Probably Karl XII aka Carolus Rex. Dude not only got his whole army annihilated with his stupidity he also drained so many resources from Sweden there was massive problems and Sweden's era of great power ended.
He's shockingly liked mostly because he inherited such a good army from his father that people thought he was responsible for the military victories.
To his defence, it was the other ones who declared war on us because they wanted to end our power era. But sure, maybe he could have been smarter in his descensions when the war had started.
Probably Victor Emmanuel III.
Does it count if my country wasn't independent until a couple years later?
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Yeah maybe this guy
Interesting, that here you are pointing at the aggressor (justified), while in other comment you guilt the leader of country defending against aggression...
For Poland, I think Swedish king charles x gustav. His invasion on Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth caused death of ~half of population. Worst time ever to live in Poland, only comparable is WWII
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And for the second question - either a Supreme Leader, or a Country Destroyer.
In absolute numbers: Mao.
In percentage of the population at that time: at least 5-10 contenders, examples like Bai Qi, Ying Zheng, Jia Nanfeng, An Lushan, Genghis Khan, Hong Xiuquan aka Jesus's Brother.
Basically every 200 years, a brutal war happened and 60-90% of the entire population died.
Hirohito and Hideki Tojo during WW2.
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Trump ending USAID will kill 15 million of the poorest people in the world.
That picture is bullshit. Stalinist repression killed 6 million slaves. The third Reich killed more than 20 million.
Probably the Russians , the specific person would be Stalin, he killed and deported hundreds of thousands of Romanians
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Quite possibly Thomas Midgley Jr. He was responsible for leaded gasoline and CFCs. The amount of lives, shortened as well as the violence and crippling stupid world wide caused by leaded gasoline cannot even be well estimated.
I dont know really if theres been anyone who has caused a lot of deaths in the country. At least not someone who 100% existed and we are able to confirm their actions.
The only ones i can really think of are people from the landnáma stories. As in the stories passed down through time from the settling of Iceland by viking warriors.
Allegedly there was a lot of revenge killings and stuff going on back then. But i do recall a teacher saying that if the death toll was real, then icelanders would have died out long ago. Whether thats factual i do not know.
Nature tends to be the biggest cause of death through history in Iceland. Natural disasters causing famine and stuff.
Isn't the pic factually wrong? Stalin may have killed about 3 million Slavs but Hitler probably killed more than 10x that.
I'm from the USA and I'm going to go with Thomas Midgley Jr.
He is responsible for leaded gas (pervasive brain damage) and freon (CFCs that destroyed the Ozone layer).
Without leaded gas, I think right wing populism would not have been so successful.
Has anyone said Kissinger yet? Rest in piss.
ETA: maybe it doesn't work for the prompt, actually. Mainly killed non-Americans.