I’m pretty sure admins have repeatedly affirmed that subs are just their mods’ playgrounds, yeah. No value judgment on that either way from me. But your quip is kinda toothless
As a general rule for people, unless you’re mocking them don’t engage with people doing hasbara on the internet. These people are largely not approaching the discussion with any semblance of good faith and are not worth arguing with. Downvoting and moving on is the best solution
It’s important for lurkers to see someone shoot down their misinformation, though. If the end goal is to change Hasbara’s minds, it’s obviously not going to work. But there are lot of people out there who have no idea what to think, and it’s important for there to be pushback to Hasbara for that reason alone.
That’s valuable for sure. The big issue is when we’ve got a lot of short replies in a long chain of argument. Clarification for lurkers is good. That being said, this information can also be supplied without engaging with the hasbara bots. But yes that is valuable for sure and worth pointing out
With all due respect, and I’m genuinely curious, what is with the obsession with the genocide in Gaza. There are more than 10 other genocides happening around the world many with higher death tolls, yet I’ve never heard or seen anything about them posted anywhere. Does just no one care?
Things like the famine in Yemen are clearly more important considering the hundreds of thousands of innocents and children who’ve starved to death. This isn’t even counting combat deaths. It’s just weird to me that people like you don’t care about that. It’s very obvious people like you only became concerned with global politics when the Israel Gaza war began because it’s something you had a smidgeon of prior knowledge of
Things like the famine in Yemen are clearly more important considering the hundreds of thousands of innocents and children who’ve starved to death. This isn’t even counting combat deaths.
That’s more important than the millions of innocents starving to death in Gaza right now?
It’s just weird to me that people like you don’t care about that.
Who says I don’t care? You clearly don’t know me
It’s very obvious people like you only became concerned with global politics when the Israel Gaza war began because it’s something you had a smidgeon of prior knowledge of.
Again you clearly don’t know me. I’ve known about and educated myself about Palestine and the occupation for years before 2023, my opinion really hasn’t changed since then, just became strengthened
Thank you for proving my point that Gaza is the only global conflict you care about because you had some cursory knowledge before and want to feel smart. There are not millions starving in Gaza, obviously it’s a humanitarian crisis, but when you have millions starving like in Yemen, you get hundreds of thousands of people starving to death not a few thousand. Since Israel has decided to occupy the full territory things are going to get much much worse, potentially even as bad as the situation in Yemen but you clearly know nothing about either if you would pretend they’re remotely close.
Do you really believe there are millions starving to death in Gaza right now? Where are the millions dead if this is the case? There are estimates of 60-75,000 people dead due to this conflict, there are nearly 400,000 deaths due to starvation alone in Yemen. Just because you watched a YouTube video about Gaza 4 years ago doesn’t make it more important
Literally everyone in Gaza is starving now. That doesn’t mean they are already dead. And the estimated are much higher than what you’re saying. ~65k is the amount of identified bodies by the Gaza ministry of health, which has been pretty defunct for the past 2 years. Estimates are in the hundreds of thousands
Just like you “don’t believe” that the California Department of Children and Family Services doesn’t wantonly open investigations based on anonymous tips lol
If you’re worried Hamas is stealing aid to use as leverage, the correct answer is to flood the region with so much aid that it is no longer scarce enough to be stealable leverage.
The answer is not to deprive children of food. I dont want the IDF, a genocidal military force whose decades of human rights atrocities make Hamas look like Doctors Without Borders, to have aid; that doesnt mean we should starve Israeli children
Theyre enforcing a blockade and preventing aid. They also prevent Gaza from doing things to be self-sufficient, like collecting rainwater. They are actively, intentionally, as a military tactic, starving Gaza. They were found to have done so in the ICC and Netanyahu talks openly about it.
There is not enough food in Gaza. Israel is preventing food from entering Gaza as a military tactic. Your argument is that Hamas is taking the small, finite amount of food in Gaza, and if they stopped doing so, Gaza wouldnt need any additional food.
But that ignores the fact that there isnt enough food in Gaza. On purpose. Because Israel, by its own admission and according to the ICC, is starving them as a military tactic.
this is the modern day equivalent of how many nazis believed jewish people are an existential threat to them while hitler was killing them by the millions. either it's just a talking point and nobody actually believes it or some people actually have negative iq.
you never met a single Palestinian. like i could explain to you why no country is a monolith but you're literally the negative iq individual that talked about earlier so there's no point. there's no debating a person who thinks murder isn't wrong. any kind of debate needs some common principles on both sides.
survival of the fittest? clearly hamas will try to steal the food and aid meant for civilians, does that mean every person who is trying to access it is hamas? as far as i know all humans need food to survive. most importantly, what do you think what percentage of the population is hamas according to you?
How does this fit the sub?
Some things are more important than staying on topic.
Oh! I didn't notice it was a mod post. Mb.
And you'll decide what they are
Yes that’s the point of mods
They’re literally the mod, tf?
Lmao let me introduce you to the concept of Reddit’s mods.
I’m pretty sure admins have repeatedly affirmed that subs are just their mods’ playgrounds, yeah. No value judgment on that either way from me. But your quip is kinda toothless
True
As a general rule for people, unless you’re mocking them don’t engage with people doing hasbara on the internet. These people are largely not approaching the discussion with any semblance of good faith and are not worth arguing with. Downvoting and moving on is the best solution
It’s important for lurkers to see someone shoot down their misinformation, though. If the end goal is to change Hasbara’s minds, it’s obviously not going to work. But there are lot of people out there who have no idea what to think, and it’s important for there to be pushback to Hasbara for that reason alone.
That’s valuable for sure. The big issue is when we’ve got a lot of short replies in a long chain of argument. Clarification for lurkers is good. That being said, this information can also be supplied without engaging with the hasbara bots. But yes that is valuable for sure and worth pointing out
With all due respect, and I’m genuinely curious, what is with the obsession with the genocide in Gaza. There are more than 10 other genocides happening around the world many with higher death tolls, yet I’ve never heard or seen anything about them posted anywhere. Does just no one care?
Make a post, organise a protest, take action. Or are you just bringing this up to distract from the genocide in Gaza?
Things like the famine in Yemen are clearly more important considering the hundreds of thousands of innocents and children who’ve starved to death. This isn’t even counting combat deaths. It’s just weird to me that people like you don’t care about that. It’s very obvious people like you only became concerned with global politics when the Israel Gaza war began because it’s something you had a smidgeon of prior knowledge of
That’s more important than the millions of innocents starving to death in Gaza right now?
Who says I don’t care? You clearly don’t know me
Again you clearly don’t know me. I’ve known about and educated myself about Palestine and the occupation for years before 2023, my opinion really hasn’t changed since then, just became strengthened
Thank you for proving my point that Gaza is the only global conflict you care about because you had some cursory knowledge before and want to feel smart. There are not millions starving in Gaza, obviously it’s a humanitarian crisis, but when you have millions starving like in Yemen, you get hundreds of thousands of people starving to death not a few thousand. Since Israel has decided to occupy the full territory things are going to get much much worse, potentially even as bad as the situation in Yemen but you clearly know nothing about either if you would pretend they’re remotely close.
Do you really believe there are millions starving to death in Gaza right now? Where are the millions dead if this is the case? There are estimates of 60-75,000 people dead due to this conflict, there are nearly 400,000 deaths due to starvation alone in Yemen. Just because you watched a YouTube video about Gaza 4 years ago doesn’t make it more important
Literally everyone in Gaza is starving now. That doesn’t mean they are already dead. And the estimated are much higher than what you’re saying. ~65k is the amount of identified bodies by the Gaza ministry of health, which has been pretty defunct for the past 2 years. Estimates are in the hundreds of thousands
Source? I don’t believe you.
Just like you “don’t believe” that the California Department of Children and Family Services doesn’t wantonly open investigations based on anonymous tips lol
I have no idea what you’re talking about
You're not genuinely curious or you'd be doing more than asking said questions on the Internet.
Look at this you're downvoted
So are you.
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How do you launch a rocket inside a tent?
Out the door
Wow, straight up agreeing with genocide and man-made starvation. Good luck with that.
Dont you get it, what if we give them bread and they give it to their rockets???? /s
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If you’re worried Hamas is stealing aid to use as leverage, the correct answer is to flood the region with so much aid that it is no longer scarce enough to be stealable leverage.
The answer is not to deprive children of food. I dont want the IDF, a genocidal military force whose decades of human rights atrocities make Hamas look like Doctors Without Borders, to have aid; that doesnt mean we should starve Israeli children
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Theyre enforcing a blockade and preventing aid. They also prevent Gaza from doing things to be self-sufficient, like collecting rainwater. They are actively, intentionally, as a military tactic, starving Gaza. They were found to have done so in the ICC and Netanyahu talks openly about it.
You’re a lying fascist
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There is not enough food in Gaza. Israel is preventing food from entering Gaza as a military tactic. Your argument is that Hamas is taking the small, finite amount of food in Gaza, and if they stopped doing so, Gaza wouldnt need any additional food.
But that ignores the fact that there isnt enough food in Gaza. On purpose. Because Israel, by its own admission and according to the ICC, is starving them as a military tactic.
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Nope
Explain why they’re well fed then
this is the modern day equivalent of how many nazis believed jewish people are an existential threat to them while hitler was killing them by the millions. either it's just a talking point and nobody actually believes it or some people actually have negative iq.
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Were they starving children?
Yes? Because they’re hoarding the aid for themselves
and there are a thousand instances of idf killing innocent people in search of aid and food, what the fuck is your point?
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you never met a single Palestinian. like i could explain to you why no country is a monolith but you're literally the negative iq individual that talked about earlier so there's no point. there's no debating a person who thinks murder isn't wrong. any kind of debate needs some common principles on both sides.
Explain why Hamas are so well fed
survival of the fittest? clearly hamas will try to steal the food and aid meant for civilians, does that mean every person who is trying to access it is hamas? as far as i know all humans need food to survive. most importantly, what do you think what percentage of the population is hamas according to you?
You’re still repeating propaganda
And yet you still blame israel
Go back to your bad hunger games fanfiction.
are you a troll? did you read a single thing i said or asked? if you have no arguments then just say so.
Who says they’re well fed? Or that they’re stealing aid? “israel”? Their own military officials say otherwise
I don’t believe in hell, but if there is one, then there’s a very special place for you in it.
Easy ban.