I see this was almost never brought up in English communities, so I made a meme due to the recent light.
Context:
Sankakuhead (author of Umaru Doma - Himouto! Umaru-chan manga series) mentions that the character Umaru was created based on his real-life younger sister. The contrast between her appearing perfect outside yet being incredibly lazy at home was inspired by his observations of his sister.
Midway through the serialization of Umaru (around 2015, during the airing of the first season of the anime and the release of volumes 6 to 7), his sister was diagnosed with a rare disease and began hospitalization for treatment. Although the teacher tried to encourage her with optimism, her condition continued to worsen.
During the serialization of volumes 10 or 11 (in 2017), his sister succumbed to her illness. Sankakuhead was deeply affected at that time, to the point where he struggled to continue drawing Umaru and applied to the editor for a hiatus.
At that time, the anime was very popular, and a celebration party was being held. Sankakuhead described standing on stage saying, "I am happy," while internally suffering the pain of losing a loved one, making the emotional switch feel very chaotic.
Sankakuhead revealed that in the cover foldout of volume 11, the T-shirt worn by Umaru was actually a gift he gave to his sister. The photo was taken while his sister was wearing it. Sankakuhead indicated that this was his way of leaving behind "proof that she lived."
In the past, to prevent readers from feeling negative emotions while enjoying this joyful work, he kept this matter hidden. However, now he hopes to show his true self on his channel and wants readers to remember Umaru, as it also represents that they won’t forget his sister.
At the beginning of the video, Sankakuhead repeatedly states that this is not an easy topic and may even change readers' perceptions of the work, but he still chooses to share this experience as he reaches the 20th year of his career as a manga artist.
This is probably why Umaru series were rather ended quickly despite the hit.
Around March 2016, someone made a twitter account "うまるちゃん虐待bot" dedicated to posting gore fanart of Umaru-chan. This account came to the attention of Young Jump's official channels, and although there was initially a request to delete it, the account creator did not stop, leading to a potential civil lawsuit. Ultimately, the matter was settled, but the account creator was forced to drop out of university, resulting in considerable consequences.
Back in the days, there were criticism towards Sankakuhead (author of Umaru-chan manga) for being too “sensitive,” because gore fanart kinda happens all the time, and barely anyone bothers with it. Just like doujinshi, it’s treated as part of artistic freedom, and this lawsuit is regarded as a direct oppression to it. The account creator even publicly stated "99% creators won’t bother with fanarts, I just happened to be the unlucky 1%."
Welp, suddenly it all makes sense now why Sankakuhead got so triggered. You can search "うまるちゃん虐待bot" and you should see articles for it.
Great context summary, but I think you should edit it to include what/who Umaru-chan and Sankakuhead is. Not everybody knows every anime and the author of the original work.
I don't know. I can understand were someone struggling with death looking for catharsis or escapism. Some writers write for themselves as much as their audience.
Exactly because people like you the authors of stories, novels, and manga usually keep such things to themselves.
Like, so what if she is blonde? Ever heard of dye? Also maybe when his sister was alive she wanted or wished to have blonde hair thus it is very reasonable from author pov to make said character blonde. You are the cringe here.
...Some people base characters on people they know, but they don't completely replicate that person's appearance. Why should they? It's personality they're portraying.
I mean, people cry at literally anime and manga and other stuff that is not related to their real life at all, so your comment doesnt make sense counting that, oh did I mention games? Some games with actual great writing also makes alot of people cry. So if such silly little fiction stuff can get us weebs and also silly tv shows can get normies cry, we all (mostly) will cry when our a first degree blood relative of ours dies.
And that is totally what makes human humans, sherlock. You are just saying you dont have emotions lol, but I get it, I actually do. In some causes some people go thru a lotta shit that their emotions actually gets really really dull and almost dont exist. So technically, your comment is not wrong.
I think you should also include that Umaru-chan herself was based off of the author's actual sister. And she passed away while the first season was airing. Just read the transcript and man, I'm bawling
Japan has very few restrictions on their fiction and art unless it's some truly illegal stuff, and many Japanese fans don't realise that creating and participating in certain fictional topics, such as creating extremely dark nsfw fan works like gore and other unsavory stuff, makes people concern about them and also finding such work offensive. From what I heard, most Japanese fans agree on the 'fiction doesn't affect reality' opinion, and in that kind of environment I believe is why a lot of unhinged fanworks spawn from and why it's normalized.
Always skating by with the loli stuff until they get exposed with cp. It's why I never trust nobody in fandoms, Japanese or English, that consume Loli or Shota content.
Umamusume having fanart restrictions are also supposedly because people sent gore art of the horse girls to the real life owners or something like that
Oh you mean that image. It's the only one I could find that was posted by the account. Sorry but I won't provide where I found it. There're many more gore fanarts of Umaru or literally all anime characters anyway.
Sankakuhead mentions that the character Umaru was created based on his real-life younger sister. The contrast between her appearing perfect outside yet being incredibly lazy at home was inspired by his observations of his sister.
Midway through the serialization of Umaru (around 2015, during the airing of the first season of the anime and the release of volumes 6 to 7), his sister was diagnosed with a rare disease and began hospitalization for treatment. Although the teacher tried to encourage her with optimism, her condition continued to worsen.
During the serialization of volumes 10 or 11 (in 2017), his sister succumbed to her illness. Sankakuhead was deeply affected at that time, to the point where he struggled to continue drawing Umaru and applied to the editor for a hiatus.
At that time, the anime was very popular, and a celebration party was being held. Sankakuhead described standing on stage saying, "I am happy," while internally suffering the pain of losing a loved one, making the emotional switch feel very chaotic.
Sankakuhead revealed that in the cover foldout of volume 11, the T-shirt worn by Umaru was actually a gift he gave to his sister. The photo was taken while his sister was wearing it. Sankakuhead indicated that this was his way of leaving behind "proof that she lived."
In the past, to prevent readers from feeling negative emotions while enjoying this joyful work, he kept this matter hidden. However, now he hopes to show his true self on his channel and wants readers to remember Umaru, as it also represents that they won’t forget his sister.
At the beginning of the video, Sankakuhead repeatedly states that this is not an easy topic and may even change readers' perceptions of the work, but he still chooses to share this experience as he reaches the 20th year of his career as a manga artist.
This is probably why Umaru series were rather ended quickly despite the hit.
It's a horrible thing to do, even without the added context. Any creative person would despise gore of their characters. I believe a rather apt term for this is "brain-child;" to mangaka, their characters are not unlike their children.
As a writer I support this comment, we all make some fictional character and flesh it out and feel connected to it EVEN if it was not based on a real person we know and we see it as our own creation aka child.
For such reasons I am planing to never share my works in a wide public range so I dont end seeing rape/gore/sex "fanart" of my beloved childs, I am literally scared of that happening at some point, and I am a nobody!! Now imagine a real artist with a more grounded work and characters that is actually based on their sister which died afterwards. Insane. That guy doing these gore stuff unknowingly hurt umaru author (or rather I shall say brother now) so bad that mentally by such doing what he thinks silly bloody drawings...
Same. I am 100% fine with people drawing or writing whatever they want featuring my characters, because I've been to fandoms and know how they work, don't feel entitled to control over other people's actions and don't endorse censorship. At most I might ask people not to DM fanart I don't vibe with to me personally, I have even done that in the past when a fan was sending me erotic art of my V-tube avatar that's based on my own appearance and I didn't feel comfortable with that, but they are still free to post it and share it wherever they want as long as they don't @ me about it. I know how to block and filter, and I don't want to go the way of Russian government and sent people to jail for making "perverse" art.
I mean, I definitely wouldn't want to read it if I thought of the character as my sister, but that isn't even on the same planet as gore. Even if I don't personally want to see it, my sister is allowed to have sex. But I'd rather she never get blown up with a grenade or cut in half or whatever other gory mess these people imagine. That's a whole different level of upsetting.
It is using copyrighted work. Like the post says 99% of fanartists will never have any legal case brought against them but ANYONE that makes any money off this is doing something illegal. Even without making money you could lose a case but the original artist would have to really care (Like this case) and pursue the case at probably substantial cost for no gain.
It was not an actual lawsuit because it settled before that. I'm not sure what's the actual violation they filed, but it ended up with account creator being expelled from university.
The account owner said something like "If she's ugly, her brother would've killed her!" Meanwhile the "real Umaru" aka his beloved sister was battling her life in hospital. I theorize that's the line doing most damage.
When its this type of bad? Yes you can get sued for it (probably not in all countries though) I mean cmon if you made a drawing of someone you actually relate to and love and care about (dead or alive) and then someone saw your pic and went and made some freaky gore/rape "fanart" of it... how would you feel?
It doesn't matter how i feel. Freedom to make art should be protected. If they were profiting from it then it makes sense they got sued. But just little timmy drawing gore porn and posting it to Twitter for free should never get sued.
Show me a pic of your sis real quick so i go make gore art of it.
How do you feel about this comment now? Thats if you do have a sister that you care about.
The point is NOT about the art itself, if it was for example for any fictional character not based on a real person it would be fine and stuff, but again this case is different because the author didnt just pull said character from void, he based it on his sister who is now only living as a memory he wished to keep going with Umaru.
Devil's advocate over here. As the kind of person who grows up watching LifeLeak honestly I wouldn't mind. Getting mad over a photo while there are people out there getting fed into the human equivalent to a blender all the time, I'd say that's kind of sentimentalist
Yikes. If this is how every discourse ultimately meant to boil down then what's even the point? You're out here screaming "Why aren't you mad?" and I simply just, don't. This sounds more like a rallying cry if anything, and I'm not sure what you're trying to get from this. Anyway for the record, I'm not your fucking enemy, dude.
I am more rather saying in my comments in this post to those who are downplaying the actual meaning of the acts mentioned in specific case taht they are wrong and it is bad. And they are like: "no I am totally fine with that" and "i dont see the issue in fanart" while we are talking about gore art of a character you based on your sister that died afterwards due sickness.
Beside that, the comment you replied to was LITERALLY just me trying to talk to ya, normally, frankly, and without even saying anything about the umaru case we have at this thread
Oh hi! One of the guys who have seen the real shit that makes your emotions get so dull and almost nonexistent anymore like I said before!
Sure.
But I'll spare you with that. It's too distracting.
Now, no one is trying to downplay anything. Gore fanfic of your loved one is still as nauseating as is, but yes, "I don't see this issue" is still the answer you'll get. Think about it: If this is enough to trigger a moral panic within you, what about places like Sudan, DR Congo, Myanmar, or just about any organized crime in let's say your region? You are mad about a digital image while there's literal slavery out here in idk, fucking Kazakhstan or whatever. If it requires you to know about the existence of whoever's suffering before you could sympathize them, are you even a good person? Or just the same deplorable ass as I am?
Well, I am not out there yelling about the actual real real real real bad shit because I will just get banned or ignored and no one gives a shit about us anyways. But trying to get people take a small step to recognise bad stuff is a good start imo.
Like, if I just talk about the shit I know and put it in some ling ass text wall post it will get removed, it was already removed twice by reddit. Feels like talking to a wall when you go to the real world issues. But that doesnt stop me from pointing smaller issues (that are still issues) when I find them in posts like this.
It still does not matter. The moment you put a character into the public eye it's out of your hands what they do with it. You should never be vulnerable of getting sued for making art, even if it's offensive.
Well, this comment may actually get downvoted unlike other comments of mine here but, I will just be honest and speak because what would downvotes do to me? Kill me? Lol.
As a person who hates how people mess with other people art and creations and then call it "fanart" (here I mean those who do aweful nsfw -such as gore- art of characters that were never shown or stated to have anything related to such things) make the art community worse and pollute it. While actual fanart (here I mean pure and innocent drawings of trying to draw for example said character in a different artstyle but not mess with how it was made much) is so fine and very okay, I really think there should be rules do not defile someone art while ALSO allowes normal and fine fanart, well unless the author themselves did draw said character in nsfw positions then they have no reason to get any type of fanart of said character removed.
In a small sum, I disagree with current loose laws of "freedom" and yearn for actual decent rules, none of us are free nowdays anyways.
Go ahead downvote me.
[Non of us is free nowadays anyway] source: refused saying "freedom is slavery" in his master piece that talks about our current state of economy "a like supreme"
You can like or dislike whatever you want, that's your right. You can't tell other people what kind of art they are allowed to make. You're arguing about morals, what I'm taking about is legality. You say you want to change the law, sure do it. But that's not the reality we live in.
Weeeell you are not wrong but you missed my point or I would rather I failed at making it more visible.
Yes we or anyone can like or dislike any art and whatever thats true, but I meant as the content creator sometimes what people do with the content you make kinda makes you on a sate that is way above "mad", but again, thats what happens when you give it to the internet which pollutes peoples brain let alone some art, ofc if you let your content boat float on the internet it will be metaphorically raped at some point or another or at all points even.
Oh I want to add a silly comment too about "the reality we live in"
You knwo what the reality we live in? The ones which you:
That's the thing about rights. The most important time to defend them is when you don't agree with or don't like how someone else is using their right.
It depends. Check recent megaman fanart rules. Some games do it too. Ofc they won't chase everyone unless they see what you're doing is too damaging to their IP.
Megaman fanart rules? I'm not talking about what a company wants. I'm talking about legal justification to sue. If someone is making art for themself or even to share online, as long as they're not profiting monetarily from it, they should have the right to do so, even if it is offensive to other people.
Considering the current context now. Before her death the manga seems super sweet, with the characters being exaggerated and certain scenes probably being inside jokes only they know. Now it hurts.
I see this was almost never brought up in English communities, so I made a meme due to the recent light.
Context:
Sankakuhead (author of Umaru Doma - Himouto! Umaru-chan manga series) mentions that the character Umaru was created based on his real-life younger sister. The contrast between her appearing perfect outside yet being incredibly lazy at home was inspired by his observations of his sister.
Midway through the serialization of Umaru (around 2015, during the airing of the first season of the anime and the release of volumes 6 to 7), his sister was diagnosed with a rare disease and began hospitalization for treatment. Although the teacher tried to encourage her with optimism, her condition continued to worsen.
During the serialization of volumes 10 or 11 (in 2017), his sister succumbed to her illness. Sankakuhead was deeply affected at that time, to the point where he struggled to continue drawing Umaru and applied to the editor for a hiatus.
At that time, the anime was very popular, and a celebration party was being held. Sankakuhead described standing on stage saying, "I am happy," while internally suffering the pain of losing a loved one, making the emotional switch feel very chaotic.
Sankakuhead revealed that in the cover foldout of volume 11, the T-shirt worn by Umaru was actually a gift he gave to his sister. The photo was taken while his sister was wearing it. Sankakuhead indicated that this was his way of leaving behind "proof that she lived."
In the past, to prevent readers from feeling negative emotions while enjoying this joyful work, he kept this matter hidden. However, now he hopes to show his true self on his channel and wants readers to remember Umaru, as it also represents that they won’t forget his sister.
At the beginning of the video, Sankakuhead repeatedly states that this is not an easy topic and may even change readers' perceptions of the work, but he still chooses to share this experience as he reaches the 20th year of his career as a manga artist.
This is probably why Umaru series were rather ended quickly despite the hit.
You can find the full interview here
Around March 2016, someone made a twitter account "うまるちゃん虐待bot" dedicated to posting gore fanart of Umaru-chan. This account came to the attention of Young Jump's official channels, and although there was initially a request to delete it, the account creator did not stop, leading to a potential civil lawsuit. Ultimately, the matter was settled, but the account creator was forced to drop out of university, resulting in considerable consequences.
Back in the days, there were criticism towards Sankakuhead (author of Umaru-chan manga) for being too “sensitive,” because gore fanart kinda happens all the time, and barely anyone bothers with it. Just like doujinshi, it’s treated as part of artistic freedom, and this lawsuit is regarded as a direct oppression to it. The account creator even publicly stated "99% creators won’t bother with fanarts, I just happened to be the unlucky 1%."
Welp, suddenly it all makes sense now why Sankakuhead got so triggered. You can search "うまるちゃん虐待bot" and you should see articles for it.
Thanks for the explanation OP
No problem. The recent reveal just made this whole shit 100× more unhinged.
Great context summary, but I think you should edit it to include what/who Umaru-chan and Sankakuhead is. Not everybody knows every anime and the author of the original work.
aight done.
You should also edit it again and include the Plot Twist about his Irl sister because nothing it coming out in my google searches either
Wait, he got triggered because that fan artist was making Gore art of what was essentially the Creator's sister???
Oh bro...
Yea valid crashout.
And apparently said gore art came out while the sister was in treatment for a fatal illness... yikes.
Yeah I think I would have crashed out too.
You're right, but I've put them in another comment. I'm afraid it'd make my comment too long.
It's better than long than missing the actual context needed.
Because right now your whole comment shouts like "Brad Pitt Angelina divorce finally provides context, seach google to find out why"
Aight done. I'd have posted this in the trending post but it was locked.
it is very tragic
Why did sankakuhead get so triggered? Google gives no useful results.
Umaru was based on his real sister, dying at that time.
That is hella fucking weird, jesus.
I don't know. I can understand were someone struggling with death looking for catharsis or escapism. Some writers write for themselves as much as their audience.
Yes, which is why i can understand why it would feel hella weird to see gore fanart of your character.
Weird? That is not weirdo at all dude
He meant the fact that seeing gore "fanart" of your dead sister is weird, as hell.
The character is based on his irl sick little sister apparently. She died somewhere around 2017 iirc.
The author only disclosed this information pretty recently. That is probably why Google search hasn't been updated with it yet.
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Exactly because people like you the authors of stories, novels, and manga usually keep such things to themselves.
Like, so what if she is blonde? Ever heard of dye? Also maybe when his sister was alive she wanted or wished to have blonde hair thus it is very reasonable from author pov to make said character blonde. You are the cringe here.
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Someone is not getting the point lol
...Some people base characters on people they know, but they don't completely replicate that person's appearance. Why should they? It's personality they're portraying.
Probably meant bassed on as in inspired by, not "this character is a 100% stand-in for my sister."
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Lame
I mean, people cry at literally anime and manga and other stuff that is not related to their real life at all, so your comment doesnt make sense counting that, oh did I mention games? Some games with actual great writing also makes alot of people cry. So if such silly little fiction stuff can get us weebs and also silly tv shows can get normies cry, we all (mostly) will cry when our a first degree blood relative of ours dies.
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And that is totally what makes human humans, sherlock. You are just saying you dont have emotions lol, but I get it, I actually do. In some causes some people go thru a lotta shit that their emotions actually gets really really dull and almost dont exist. So technically, your comment is not wrong.
He based Umaru on his own deceased sister
At the time his little sister was battling the sickness that killed her, so she was still alive while the account was posting that stuff.
I think you should also include that Umaru-chan herself was based off of the author's actual sister. And she passed away while the first season was airing. Just read the transcript and man, I'm bawling
Nvm, you mentioned it in another comment
Be careful OP, the mod here might ban you for posting this topic that is completely irrelevant to anime
Asking about the last para, does the japanese audience really treat gore art as any other "normal" fanart?
Yes, R18G is a really big genre in Japan. The community is a lot bigger than most people imagine.
Wow thats sick, literally.
Japan has very few restrictions on their fiction and art unless it's some truly illegal stuff, and many Japanese fans don't realise that creating and participating in certain fictional topics, such as creating extremely dark nsfw fan works like gore and other unsavory stuff, makes people concern about them and also finding such work offensive. From what I heard, most Japanese fans agree on the 'fiction doesn't affect reality' opinion, and in that kind of environment I believe is why a lot of unhinged fanworks spawn from and why it's normalized.
With how theres always a japanese guy getting caught with cp, Im not surprised
Always skating by with the loli stuff until they get exposed with cp. It's why I never trust nobody in fandoms, Japanese or English, that consume Loli or Shota content.
Umamusume having fanart restrictions are also supposedly because people sent gore art of the horse girls to the real life owners or something like that
So much for artistic expression when all you have is malicious intent
Thank you for the explanation. This was really sad and heartbreaking. I hope more people get to know about this.
I still have no idea why this is interesting, honestly.
You have some link that include the images? I couldn't find one that included the image. Also I kinda out of the loop, is anything happened to Umaru?
image
I gave explaination in another comment.
I still couldn't find example of the image. Well it doesn't matter.
Oh you mean that image. It's the only one I could find that was posted by the account. Sorry but I won't provide where I found it. There're many more gore fanarts of Umaru or literally all anime characters anyway.
here's an article with censored pictures from the "bot" account
Man i genuinely cant imagine being in authors position
What
Sankakuhead mentions that the character Umaru was created based on his real-life younger sister. The contrast between her appearing perfect outside yet being incredibly lazy at home was inspired by his observations of his sister.
Midway through the serialization of Umaru (around 2015, during the airing of the first season of the anime and the release of volumes 6 to 7), his sister was diagnosed with a rare disease and began hospitalization for treatment. Although the teacher tried to encourage her with optimism, her condition continued to worsen.
During the serialization of volumes 10 or 11 (in 2017), his sister succumbed to her illness. Sankakuhead was deeply affected at that time, to the point where he struggled to continue drawing Umaru and applied to the editor for a hiatus.
At that time, the anime was very popular, and a celebration party was being held. Sankakuhead described standing on stage saying, "I am happy," while internally suffering the pain of losing a loved one, making the emotional switch feel very chaotic.
Sankakuhead revealed that in the cover foldout of volume 11, the T-shirt worn by Umaru was actually a gift he gave to his sister. The photo was taken while his sister was wearing it. Sankakuhead indicated that this was his way of leaving behind "proof that she lived."
In the past, to prevent readers from feeling negative emotions while enjoying this joyful work, he kept this matter hidden. However, now he hopes to show his true self on his channel and wants readers to remember Umaru, as it also represents that they won’t forget his sister.
At the beginning of the video, Sankakuhead repeatedly states that this is not an easy topic and may even change readers' perceptions of the work, but he still chooses to share this experience as he reaches the 20th year of his career as a manga artist.
This is probably why Umaru series were rather ended quickly despite the hit.
You can find the full interview here
Man that's rough, no one deserves going through the loss of a loved one early into their life, can't imagine how wrecked he must have been.
This went from ‘haha’ to ‘oh no’ real fast.
It's a horrible thing to do, even without the added context. Any creative person would despise gore of their characters. I believe a rather apt term for this is "brain-child;" to mangaka, their characters are not unlike their children.
I dunno, the vampire group seems okay with it.
As a writer I support this comment, we all make some fictional character and flesh it out and feel connected to it EVEN if it was not based on a real person we know and we see it as our own creation aka child.
For such reasons I am planing to never share my works in a wide public range so I dont end seeing rape/gore/sex "fanart" of my beloved childs, I am literally scared of that happening at some point, and I am a nobody!! Now imagine a real artist with a more grounded work and characters that is actually based on their sister which died afterwards. Insane. That guy doing these gore stuff unknowingly hurt umaru author (or rather I shall say brother now) so bad that mentally by such doing what he thinks silly bloody drawings...
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Same. I am 100% fine with people drawing or writing whatever they want featuring my characters, because I've been to fandoms and know how they work, don't feel entitled to control over other people's actions and don't endorse censorship. At most I might ask people not to DM fanart I don't vibe with to me personally, I have even done that in the past when a fan was sending me erotic art of my V-tube avatar that's based on my own appearance and I didn't feel comfortable with that, but they are still free to post it and share it wherever they want as long as they don't @ me about it. I know how to block and filter, and I don't want to go the way of Russian government and sent people to jail for making "perverse" art.
Wich anime?
Himouto Umaru-Chan.
That's so fucking tragic. Poor guy
wow.... idk how should i feel about this.....
I can’t imagine what was going on in their minds while drawing these.
I went from "Wheeeee" to "Whoooo" real fast.
Don't anyone tell him about all the R34 that ppl made of her and the series lol
I mean, I definitely wouldn't want to read it if I thought of the character as my sister, but that isn't even on the same planet as gore. Even if I don't personally want to see it, my sister is allowed to have sex. But I'd rather she never get blown up with a grenade or cut in half or whatever other gory mess these people imagine. That's a whole different level of upsetting.
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Aw, I love that anime.
How can you even get sued for posting fanart?
It is using copyrighted work. Like the post says 99% of fanartists will never have any legal case brought against them but ANYONE that makes any money off this is doing something illegal. Even without making money you could lose a case but the original artist would have to really care (Like this case) and pursue the case at probably substantial cost for no gain.
If you're making money off it, it's not fanart, just ip theft. Fanart is inherently not monetized.
It was not an actual lawsuit because it settled before that. I'm not sure what's the actual violation they filed, but it ended up with account creator being expelled from university.
The account owner said something like "If she's ugly, her brother would've killed her!" Meanwhile the "real Umaru" aka his beloved sister was battling her life in hospital. I theorize that's the line doing most damage.
If anyone says something like this, it's a big sign that they need to consult with a therapist. This is nothing less than a mental illness.
When its this type of bad? Yes you can get sued for it (probably not in all countries though) I mean cmon if you made a drawing of someone you actually relate to and love and care about (dead or alive) and then someone saw your pic and went and made some freaky gore/rape "fanart" of it... how would you feel?
It doesn't matter how i feel. Freedom to make art should be protected. If they were profiting from it then it makes sense they got sued. But just little timmy drawing gore porn and posting it to Twitter for free should never get sued.
Show me a pic of your sis real quick so i go make gore art of it.
How do you feel about this comment now? Thats if you do have a sister that you care about.
The point is NOT about the art itself, if it was for example for any fictional character not based on a real person it would be fine and stuff, but again this case is different because the author didnt just pull said character from void, he based it on his sister who is now only living as a memory he wished to keep going with Umaru.
Devil's advocate over here. As the kind of person who grows up watching LifeLeak honestly I wouldn't mind. Getting mad over a photo while there are people out there getting fed into the human equivalent to a blender all the time, I'd say that's kind of sentimentalist
Oh hi! One of the guys who have seen the real shit that makes your emotions get so dull and almost nonexistent anymore like I said before!
Btw I survived one of those blenders, not the real real bad ones like Gaza or anything, but war is war ya know what I mean?
Yikes. If this is how every discourse ultimately meant to boil down then what's even the point? You're out here screaming "Why aren't you mad?" and I simply just, don't. This sounds more like a rallying cry if anything, and I'm not sure what you're trying to get from this. Anyway for the record, I'm not your fucking enemy, dude.
No? I never asked why arent you mad.
I am more rather saying in my comments in this post to those who are downplaying the actual meaning of the acts mentioned in specific case taht they are wrong and it is bad. And they are like: "no I am totally fine with that" and "i dont see the issue in fanart" while we are talking about gore art of a character you based on your sister that died afterwards due sickness.
Beside that, the comment you replied to was LITERALLY just me trying to talk to ya, normally, frankly, and without even saying anything about the umaru case we have at this thread
Sure.
But I'll spare you with that. It's too distracting.
Now, no one is trying to downplay anything. Gore fanfic of your loved one is still as nauseating as is, but yes, "I don't see this issue" is still the answer you'll get. Think about it: If this is enough to trigger a moral panic within you, what about places like Sudan, DR Congo, Myanmar, or just about any organized crime in let's say your region? You are mad about a digital image while there's literal slavery out here in idk, fucking Kazakhstan or whatever. If it requires you to know about the existence of whoever's suffering before you could sympathize them, are you even a good person? Or just the same deplorable ass as I am?
I live in sudan =D
Well, I am not out there yelling about the actual real real real real bad shit because I will just get banned or ignored and no one gives a shit about us anyways. But trying to get people take a small step to recognise bad stuff is a good start imo.
Like, if I just talk about the shit I know and put it in some ling ass text wall post it will get removed, it was already removed twice by reddit. Feels like talking to a wall when you go to the real world issues. But that doesnt stop me from pointing smaller issues (that are still issues) when I find them in posts like this.
It still does not matter. The moment you put a character into the public eye it's out of your hands what they do with it. You should never be vulnerable of getting sued for making art, even if it's offensive.
Well, this comment may actually get downvoted unlike other comments of mine here but, I will just be honest and speak because what would downvotes do to me? Kill me? Lol.
As a person who hates how people mess with other people art and creations and then call it "fanart" (here I mean those who do aweful nsfw -such as gore- art of characters that were never shown or stated to have anything related to such things) make the art community worse and pollute it. While actual fanart (here I mean pure and innocent drawings of trying to draw for example said character in a different artstyle but not mess with how it was made much) is so fine and very okay, I really think there should be rules do not defile someone art while ALSO allowes normal and fine fanart, well unless the author themselves did draw said character in nsfw positions then they have no reason to get any type of fanart of said character removed.
In a small sum, I disagree with current loose laws of "freedom" and yearn for actual decent rules, none of us are free nowdays anyways.
Go ahead downvote me.
[Non of us is free nowadays anyway] source: refused saying "freedom is slavery" in his master piece that talks about our current state of economy "a like supreme"
You can like or dislike whatever you want, that's your right. You can't tell other people what kind of art they are allowed to make. You're arguing about morals, what I'm taking about is legality. You say you want to change the law, sure do it. But that's not the reality we live in.
Weeeell you are not wrong but you missed my point or I would rather I failed at making it more visible.
Yes we or anyone can like or dislike any art and whatever thats true, but I meant as the content creator sometimes what people do with the content you make kinda makes you on a sate that is way above "mad", but again, thats what happens when you give it to the internet which pollutes peoples brain let alone some art, ofc if you let your content boat float on the internet it will be metaphorically raped at some point or another or at all points even.
Oh I want to add a silly comment too about "the reality we live in"
You knwo what the reality we live in? The ones which you:
Pay for past time
Pay to unwind
Pay to be born
Pay to die
Ain't no way you're trying to protect GORE ART OF SOMEONE BASED ON A REAL PERSON!
That's the thing about rights. The most important time to defend them is when you don't agree with or don't like how someone else is using their right.
It depends. Check recent megaman fanart rules. Some games do it too. Ofc they won't chase everyone unless they see what you're doing is too damaging to their IP.
Megaman fanart rules? I'm not talking about what a company wants. I'm talking about legal justification to sue. If someone is making art for themself or even to share online, as long as they're not profiting monetarily from it, they should have the right to do so, even if it is offensive to other people.
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Considering the current context now. Before her death the manga seems super sweet, with the characters being exaggerated and certain scenes probably being inside jokes only they know. Now it hurts.
Two seasons of whimsical slice of life turned into two seasons of painful sorrow real freaking quick. Can't wait to rewatch this and ugly cry now
This comment makes it seem like you're the insufferable one
like genuinely what would possess you to write something like that under a post like this