Specifically Apple is my understanding. I've been told by brands that their terms for Find My have barred any form of dual network support even before Google's network existed.
What about Tile? That's what we use, since they work with both Android and Apple. We don't have any Apple products in our house, but I wouldn't use air tags anyways, due to the limitations. I went with tile, since it has the largest network of users worldwide.
I went with tile, since it has the largest network of users worldwide.
I doubt that. Before Apple's and Google's network, sure. But since Apple's and Google's network are built into their respective OSes, and Tile needs their own app, which doesn't come preinstalled on any phones, no way Tile has the biggest network.
By number of devices worldwide, Google's network wins. But because of Google's decision to kneecap the network by default, Apple's network works better.
Why would they want to open a hole in their walled garden? Apple would never voluntarily integrate devices from other manufacturers into their ecosystem, nor let other manufacturers use their devices.
These particular devices from Nimble are still not commercially available tho, so there aren't a lot of details about the specs yet.
Although UWB is still superior in precision when compared to Bluetooth 6.0 with Channel Sounding, I would think for most cases Bluetooth 6.0 is sufficient unless you need sub-centimeter precision.
As someone who got into tile really early on and tried a few different generations over the years, I feel like I wasted my money and time. They were not helpful at all. Unless I lost my keys in the same room I was already in it wouldnt connect or not be loud enough to hear. Not to mention their lost and found network has never actually been functional in any major city i have tried.
Was able to confirm my bags made it to the airport when they didn't come out with all the other bags. Just gave me peace of mind
Could find my keys when I left them in the closet
Of course when I actually lost my backpack I didn't have one in there. Thankfully Japan is great and it just stayed on the train til the end of the line and they found it when doing cleaning.
Yah Googles find my is nohing like Apples. I'm not even talkning network I can track my device with Apples FM network. Google is odd sometimes it works other times I don't even get the option to slect it.
All my trackers are on large objects meant more as a precaution if it's stolen/left somewhere rather than trying to figure out which seat cushion my keys are under
Neat! We're already flooding the world with e-waste (looking at you, "disposeable" vape pens, I'll celebrate any time a company uses something that will actually decompose once it hits end-of-life.
I’ve been collecting them from littered vapes that haven’t been damaged, either physically or drained past their minimum voltage. They’ve been convenient for powering some of my kids' toys after hooking them up to a BMS and a charger board, trying to reduce further waste of alkaline batteries when NiMH rechargeable batteries don’t supply sufficient voltage. It’s crazy how many of them are just trashed with perfectly good batteries within - fuck the vape industry.
Paper burns, but it's relatively easy to extinguish a burning piece of paper. The issue with batteries is not that they often catch fire (they very rarely do), it's that when they do the combustion releases oxygen that fuels the fire, so you can't put it out.
On the other hand, I doubt these "cellulose based" batteries are actually pieces of paper and I have no idea how they work or how they burn.
your first bullet point brought a question up to me. are there any trackers that work on both networks at the same time?
No, because that violates the licensing terms. It sucks because consumers lose out for no technical reason, just apple and Google being petty.
Specifically Apple is my understanding. I've been told by brands that their terms for Find My have barred any form of dual network support even before Google's network existed.
Glue two together till then?
I was thinking something similar. Make two with some sort of clipping mechanism but sell them separately to jump over the license.
What about Tile? That's what we use, since they work with both Android and Apple. We don't have any Apple products in our house, but I wouldn't use air tags anyways, due to the limitations. I went with tile, since it has the largest network of users worldwide.
Tile uses its own network and apps so it's not bound by Find My or Find Hub rules but instead by Google Play and App Store rules.
I doubt that. Before Apple's and Google's network, sure. But since Apple's and Google's network are built into their respective OSes, and Tile needs their own app, which doesn't come preinstalled on any phones, no way Tile has the biggest network.
By number of devices worldwide, Google's network wins. But because of Google's decision to kneecap the network by default, Apple's network works better.
No I don't think so
Apple and google should just merge their networks, like they did with unwanted trackers.
Why would they want to open a hole in their walled garden? Apple would never voluntarily integrate devices from other manufacturers into their ecosystem, nor let other manufacturers use their devices.
It would improve accuracy by alot
Let's first have Samsung and Google merge networks...
Sshhh, don't speak truth
They probably won't willingly, let's hope a country forces it on them.
Is there UWB? It wasn't mentioned in the article. To me a device tracker without UWB is almost useless.
These particular devices from Nimble are still not commercially available tho, so there aren't a lot of details about the specs yet.
Although UWB is still superior in precision when compared to Bluetooth 6.0 with Channel Sounding, I would think for most cases Bluetooth 6.0 is sufficient unless you need sub-centimeter precision.
Tile trackers existed years before UWB and were still helpful. UWB is very useful in certain situations but in other using sounds can be god enough.
As someone who got into tile really early on and tried a few different generations over the years, I feel like I wasted my money and time. They were not helpful at all. Unless I lost my keys in the same room I was already in it wouldnt connect or not be loud enough to hear. Not to mention their lost and found network has never actually been functional in any major city i have tried.
But I havent tried anything bluetooth 6 yet.
My benefits with Tile:
Of course when I actually lost my backpack I didn't have one in there. Thankfully Japan is great and it just stayed on the train til the end of the line and they found it when doing cleaning.
Most East Asian countries are amazing in their ethics education (past few decades, at least).
If it's in North America it'd get stolen the second you left it alone.
I use my Pebblebees and they connect across my entire house, 1st floor to 2nd, one end to the other.
Usually I know a couple places I could have left it and the audio is good enough indication.
Yah Googles find my is nohing like Apples. I'm not even talkning network I can track my device with Apples FM network. Google is odd sometimes it works other times I don't even get the option to slect it.
All my trackers are on large objects meant more as a precaution if it's stolen/left somewhere rather than trying to figure out which seat cushion my keys are under
Neat! We're already flooding the world with e-waste (looking at you, "disposeable" vape pens, I'll celebrate any time a company uses something that will actually decompose once it hits end-of-life.
I’ve been collecting them from littered vapes that haven’t been damaged, either physically or drained past their minimum voltage. They’ve been convenient for powering some of my kids' toys after hooking them up to a BMS and a charger board, trying to reduce further waste of alkaline batteries when NiMH rechargeable batteries don’t supply sufficient voltage. It’s crazy how many of them are just trashed with perfectly good batteries within - fuck the vape industry.
Pretty cool
paper NEVER catches fire - oh wait....
Paper burns, but it's relatively easy to extinguish a burning piece of paper. The issue with batteries is not that they often catch fire (they very rarely do), it's that when they do the combustion releases oxygen that fuels the fire, so you can't put it out.
On the other hand, I doubt these "cellulose based" batteries are actually pieces of paper and I have no idea how they work or how they burn.
And water drowns people