No confirmed release in the US yet, interesting. The hardware easily beats the iPhone Air and Galaxy S25 Edge in the ultra thin segment and Motorola has a good carrier presence in the US, so I feel like this could gain some popularity here.
Seems like a really good phone. For something this thin it doesn’t seem that compromised. Camera specs look good too, although I wasn’t too impressed with the software processing on the recent Moto Razrs. Its fine at best.
Not to negate your point, they still own 27% of market share.
In the U.S., the mobile sector is dominated by three players—T-Mobile, Verizon Wireless, and AT&T—which had market shares of 35%, 34%, and 27%, respectively as of December 31, 2024
Sub-flagship chip with a flagship price tag though. 8 gen 5 is weaker than last year 8 elite. Just get an S25 Edge if you really want something thin running Android.
Buuuuuut, this has the 4 camera module on it, if it can beat out the s25 edge I'm all for rooting for it.
The biggest worry is that they seem to be pushing this as ultra luxury, with a white glove experience... I had that with my galaxy fold 2 and it was a JOKE. There really was no white glove.
The biggest positive is the thinness, cameras (if they can match or exceed Samsung), and 7 years of updates, and that it's NOT a Samsung or Google, but the 7 years of updates says... "Up to," so they can pull that statement at any time and only give you two updates.
I dunno I'm rooting for Motorola to do well because we need more phone makers, but it seems like all their added bonuses don't make up for anything and are just on paper. Hopefully they prove people wrong
I just wish some company would come forth and "We respect you. Here, a good smartphone that doesn't cost a flagship premium." Asus and LG were that once.
Aaaaand nobody outside a small minority on r/android gives a flying fuck. Nobody in the real world actually cares about "promised updates" on their phones. nobody is reading on a specsheet looking how many OS updates their phone gets.
It's mostly a nuisance to most people. Hence why i ALWAYS see "please update now" pop-ups on most Macs, PCs and Phones I see in use.
new android updates make next to zero difference these days anyway.
android and its feature set are mature. the most critical security updates come via google play services. 99% of consumers dont give a shit about update schedules, and rightly so
I expected them to be in a similar level to Google or Sony since their software isn't far off AOSP, I'm not familiar with Motorola in recent years, correct me if I'm wrong.
It feels weird being in America right now. I just keep praying the EU fixes the issues my government keeps enabling. My country is going through a low point within out rough point........
Not surprised there isn't a US release, given the rest of the world already gets the better Moto Edge variants and Motorola just doesn't seem to want to tussle with Samsung for even a sliver of the US Android flagship market.
Samsung themselves doesn't release their good midrange models in the US properly, if at all. They know people throw money away, so why offer a 256GB option if you can make them buy the flagships instead.
Its gonna be 700€ within two months, nobody's buying those specs for that much with the OnePlus 15 available. That small battery is a tough sell at any price, but at 1000€ it is a complete no-go.
Seven years of software updates is a massive change in Motorola's policy.
The camera hardware is also fairly impressive- the main sensor is the same one used in the Oppo Find X9 Pro and the Vivo X300 Pro. It would have been nice for Motorola to partner up with a camera brand of some sort to improve their camera processing, though.
I will wait for Motorola China to sell this beaut! They are selling Motorola phones at 40-50% less than that of the global price. Excited for this new Moto!
But the battery is a deal breaker. Yes on paper 5200 mAH doesn't sound less, but it's a Si/C which means it may not last more than 1.5-2 years before degrading so much, it feels terrible.
Looks better than most other phones with that colorway.
It is A LOT thinner than every single flagship out there except regular s25 (which nobody buys, nor compares to). Iphone, Xiaomi, Oppo, S25 Ultra, etc etc are all 8mm+ most pushing higher end of 8mm almost 9.
? The screen is literally curved in all 4 corners, that is how the display is bent... What exactly is the problem in them stating a fact about their phone?
The hardware seems to be promising, I wouldn't consider it midrange, but I wouldn't consider it top-end either, it's better priced than the Moto Edge 70, which costs €799 for midrange specs, €999 makes more sense compared to it, if the RAM prices won't affect it, the price will become more competitive over time.
The Snapdragon 8 Gen 5 is very powerful for the majority of people, not sure about the gaming performance as I don't play demanding titles on my phone, but I'd still consider it on the higher end, or at least close to it, between that, the cameras and the overall build, it should be fairly competitive at the right price, maybe it could be around the flagship killer territory, but that's up to Motorola on what strategies they have.
Well its listed at 999€ on the German website, so they completely outpriced themselves. I have no idea who they think is going to pay that much for those specs. I mean I think it would be easier to swallow that price if the battery was bigger. But since it is below 6000mAh, it is a very hard sell. If that main camera sensor doesn't matter that much, you can get a OnePlus 15 for the same price with a larger battery and a more powerful SOC.
No confirmed release in the US yet, interesting. The hardware easily beats the iPhone Air and Galaxy S25 Edge in the ultra thin segment and Motorola has a good carrier presence in the US, so I feel like this could gain some popularity here.
Seems like a really good phone. For something this thin it doesn’t seem that compromised. Camera specs look good too, although I wasn’t too impressed with the software processing on the recent Moto Razrs. Its fine at best.
Well, their carrier presence may lack soon enough, if rumors are true.
In all fairness I’m like the only person I know that uses AT&T lol.
Doesn’t mean they aren’t popular but Moto would still be available for most.
Not to negate your point, they still own 27% of market share.
https://blog.telegeography.com/2025-mobile-market-summary
Most, sure, but 119 million customers is still quite a significant chunk haha.
What a strange marketing for the signature, ultrathin would be their regular Edge 70 at 6mm similar to the S25E i17A
At 6.99mm, it's much closer and not too much diff from S25(7.2mm) or S25+(7.3mm)
Mind you, it's a thinner phone than the S25, S25+ and S25 Ultra but with a larger battery capacity at 5,200mah than any of those Samsung phones.
It's 7mm, It doesn't enter the territory of ultra-thin phones like the Air or Edge.
Sub-flagship chip with a flagship price tag though. 8 gen 5 is weaker than last year 8 elite. Just get an S25 Edge if you really want something thin running Android.
Is the 8 Gen 5 confirmed weaker than the 8 Elite? What other phones have it?
Ace 6T/15R
https://youtu.be/I4bJxrPV6ns
CPU in Geekbench is equal but 8e doesn't have SME. So it means 8g5 is worse. GPU is also worse. Both CPU and GPU have severely crippled cache
Buuuuuut, this has the 4 camera module on it, if it can beat out the s25 edge I'm all for rooting for it.
The biggest worry is that they seem to be pushing this as ultra luxury, with a white glove experience... I had that with my galaxy fold 2 and it was a JOKE. There really was no white glove.
The biggest positive is the thinness, cameras (if they can match or exceed Samsung), and 7 years of updates, and that it's NOT a Samsung or Google, but the 7 years of updates says... "Up to," so they can pull that statement at any time and only give you two updates.
I dunno I'm rooting for Motorola to do well because we need more phone makers, but it seems like all their added bonuses don't make up for anything and are just on paper. Hopefully they prove people wrong
Edit: 3 cameras
3 cameras, one flashlight.
True. Was incorporating the selfie cam on accident
I can't believe every camera on the phone, including the selfie, is 50 MP
You reminded me of the phones that had 2 or modulated the color.
I just wish some company would come forth and "We respect you. Here, a good smartphone that doesn't cost a flagship premium." Asus and LG were that once.
Now it's all artificial luxury bragging
3 + 1 flashlight module, not 4
Not see the other guy that posted that 8 hours ago and I acknowledged it eh?
This has a 5200 mAH battery
Drops mic
The 200 mAH are for compensating the phone charging up to 80%?
I don’t feel like you’d be chasing best performance if you want an ultra thin phone like this. The 8 Gen 5 is still really great.
Even then, 8 elite is more efficient. 8g5 is equal in Geekbench just because it has SME.
https://youtu.be/I4bJxrPV6ns
The 8 gen 5 is close to an 8 elite, in a thin phone like this it is basically equal.
But I want nothing less then a flagship chip if MSRP is €1000 for a slab phone.
It has a silicone battery with 90 watt charging. That's pretty good.
No US release :(
The biggest news here is Motorola finally committing to 7 years of software updates...
Whoa, pump those breaks...
It's "up to" that means they don't have to do 7 years of updates.
Yaaaa. Thats exactly how i read it.
Mcdonalds employment sign: Managers wanted: up to $12 per hour. With shift differentials: up to $15 Woah!!
Disgusting 🫣
Aaaaand nobody outside a small minority on r/android gives a flying fuck. Nobody in the real world actually cares about "promised updates" on their phones. nobody is reading on a specsheet looking how many OS updates their phone gets.
It's mostly a nuisance to most people. Hence why i ALWAYS see "please update now" pop-ups on most Macs, PCs and Phones I see in use.
new android updates make next to zero difference these days anyway.
android and its feature set are mature. the most critical security updates come via google play services. 99% of consumers dont give a shit about update schedules, and rightly so
Very slow updates that never come out as fast as they should. Motorola is the worst at rolling out updates.
I expected them to be in a similar level to Google or Sony since their software isn't far off AOSP, I'm not familiar with Motorola in recent years, correct me if I'm wrong.
I have a Motorola. Updates are alway released slower than the other major brands. I would get a Samsung or pixel.
Motorola is owned by Lenovo. Gotta ask them.
They have to if they want to sell in the EU.
Yet another win for regulations. Thanks, EU!
It feels weird being in America right now. I just keep praying the EU fixes the issues my government keeps enabling. My country is going through a low point within out rough point........
Not surprised there isn't a US release, given the rest of the world already gets the better Moto Edge variants and Motorola just doesn't seem to want to tussle with Samsung for even a sliver of the US Android flagship market.
Samsung themselves doesn't release their good midrange models in the US properly, if at all. They know people throw money away, so why offer a 256GB option if you can make them buy the flagships instead.
1000€ , are you high motorola 😂
It has flagship specs for the most part, compared to the Edge 70 for €799 despite having midrange specs here in Italy, that's more reasonable.
Its gonna be 700€ within two months, nobody's buying those specs for that much with the OnePlus 15 available. That small battery is a tough sell at any price, but at 1000€ it is a complete no-go.
Very interesting device.
Seven years of software updates is a massive change in Motorola's policy.
The camera hardware is also fairly impressive- the main sensor is the same one used in the Oppo Find X9 Pro and the Vivo X300 Pro. It would have been nice for Motorola to partner up with a camera brand of some sort to improve their camera processing, though.
I will wait for Motorola China to sell this beaut! They are selling Motorola phones at 40-50% less than that of the global price. Excited for this new Moto!
That new shiny CPU will overheat like crazy in that slim body.
The specs are amazing! But 899$ is insane to ask!
But the battery is a deal breaker. Yes on paper 5200 mAH doesn't sound less, but it's a Si/C which means it may not last more than 1.5-2 years before degrading so much, it feels terrible.
You have to be joking.
Edit: Ignore my comment. I didn't realize it wasn't a lithium battery. Nothing to see here.
If these devices worked properly, this wouldn't be an issue. I have a device past its 6th anniversary. The battery is still alive.
Because different of these modern monstruosities it doesn't keep the battery heated as in a glass oven.
We're just powering through issues rather than fixing them. Same as videogames requiring outrageous specs.
No proof of Si/C degrading faster in phones.
Even if a 7500 MAh phone is down to 7000 in 2 years, it's still WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more than fucking Samsung, Apple and Sony..
Why do people defend things that degrade faster.
Alright, miss me with that shit
It is A LOT thinner than every single flagship out there except regular s25 (which nobody buys, nor compares to). Iphone, Xiaomi, Oppo, S25 Ultra, etc etc are all 8mm+ most pushing higher end of 8mm almost 9.
? The screen is literally curved in all 4 corners, that is how the display is bent... What exactly is the problem in them stating a fact about their phone?
Those are not good things
Competition is looking more appealing by the day. Many Chinese OEMs are pushing 7,000+ MAh batteries while this launches with 5200 MAh.
Because this is 6,9mm thick. 7000+ MAh phones are all 8,5 and over... And also they all weigh like 230g, this is 185 ish
My current phone is 7.5mm thick and already feels insanely thin. This phone is so thin that it just defeats the phone.
Egregious pricing for a midrange spec sheet.
The hardware seems to be promising, I wouldn't consider it midrange, but I wouldn't consider it top-end either, it's better priced than the Moto Edge 70, which costs €799 for midrange specs, €999 makes more sense compared to it, if the RAM prices won't affect it, the price will become more competitive over time.
That SOC is midrange, its just unfortunate. It would have a stronger chance if it had a bigger battery, but 5200mAh is negligible these days.
The Snapdragon 8 Gen 5 is very powerful for the majority of people, not sure about the gaming performance as I don't play demanding titles on my phone, but I'd still consider it on the higher end, or at least close to it, between that, the cameras and the overall build, it should be fairly competitive at the right price, maybe it could be around the flagship killer territory, but that's up to Motorola on what strategies they have.
Well its listed at 999€ on the German website, so they completely outpriced themselves. I have no idea who they think is going to pay that much for those specs. I mean I think it would be easier to swallow that price if the battery was bigger. But since it is below 6000mAh, it is a very hard sell. If that main camera sensor doesn't matter that much, you can get a OnePlus 15 for the same price with a larger battery and a more powerful SOC.
A €1000 slab phone should have a flagship 8e g5 chip in it. I don't care how powerful the 8g5 is.
The software matters far more.
People buy Apple and Samsung (besides the bragging rights) because of what they offer, not exactly for what's inside. It's no different than cars.