That's a fair explanation. Other comments pointed me to a good article that really helped to get a better understanding of the ACPs position on immigration and I agree with it. My only issue the term "mass immigration" for reasons I outlined in other comments. I understand what you mean by it tho and agree with it, just not the terminology. At the end of the day tho I still agree with the ACP and like what I see them doing.

That's an excellent article that pretty much does sum up all the questions I had on it. Midwesternmarx is actually how I came across the ACP when a comrade of mine showed me his Instagram videos, wasn't aware he had a website as well.

I guess the only issue I really have is with labelling it is literally just the use of the word "mass migration". It just feeds too much into the rights take that "mass migration of military aged men are being flooded into our countries" maybe the narratives slightly different in the US but that's what we get here and what I see it looks like the US is pumping out too. Apologies if it was in there and I missed it but is the ACP calling for a hault to immigration at the minute or is it more of a, this is what needs to be done to to fix the current broken immigration system under capitalism?

I'm going to be a bit lazy here and copy and paste from the Lasair Dhearg (Irish Socialist Republican organisation) immigration policy. But to summarise it basically looks at all the factors around immigration into Ireland and finishes with a list of demands of what needs done to sustain the current levels of immigration.

It later then goes on further to state what the stance on immigration would be in an Irish Socialist Republic. Would be really interested to hear your take on it, positives, criticisms, anything. Just trying to understand does the ACP and LD have the same approach towards immigration that's maybe just worded a bit differently or what your thoughts on it would be.

"We believe that these issues and more can be solved without delay in an Irish Socialist Republic. However, in advance of the establishment of that Republic, Lasair Dhearg supports and calls for the immediate implementation of the following positions:

1. A ban on the possession of any form of housing for profit.
2. The acquisition by the state, of all vacant property across the island, as well as all buildings and infrastructure in private ownership being used for the retention of capital or creating profits.
3. A ban on the ownership or exploitation of any natural resources and/or infrastructure by privately owned entities.
4. The nationalisation of all healthcare facilities, medical infrastructure and materials.
5. An end to the imperialist exploitation of other nation-states.
6. An end to the capitalist exploitation and destruction of our environment in the pursuit of profit.
7. An end to imperialist wars across the globe, which directly contribute to the global increase in refugees and asylum seekers.
8. The funding of public services to levels necessary to meet the needs of the people of Ireland.
9. An end to the placement of migrants in communities where it is known that sufficient resources, public services and/or infrastructure do not exist to allow the accommodation of such a placement.
10. An end to the exploitative and demeaning system of Direct Provision.
11. The eradication of any organisations and/or ideologies which seek to foment division, hatred and unfounded fear around immigration."

See, a slight difference I would have is that I wouldn't look at the 5% number as an issue because of the amount in a capitalist economic system as they're our fellow working class people, also being exploited to a different degree, that we should be uniting with to bring about revolutionary change. Now this is me looking at it solely in the terms of the current economic system.

I focus a lot on this because in Ireland when we give the reply solely on how we would regard immigration under an Irish Socialist Republic and an eventual communist society. We're often given replies along the lines of, "That's okay when that happens, but what are we going to do now?". Obviously to people who are already of the same belief telling that developing a revolutionary socialist movement to bring about that change, that's what they're already thinking.

Some are on the fence and can be pulled across. But when it comes to appealing to the masses who want a quick answer it seems best to give them an answer of what we would do in the advance of the establishment of an Irish Socialist Republic. This also seems to be where steering away from terms like mass immigration that is used by the far-right is useful as it seems to reinforce their beliefs.

All in all tho from what I've been reading now more into the ACPs position on immigration, we seem to be on the same page, just different wording. I would really argue that terminology can be very important. This is especially something that's true here in Ireland and especially up here in the Occupied 6 Counties (known in colonial terms as "Northern" Ireland). Colonial terms and normalisation of the British security forces here has played a very detrimental role to Republicanism. Every country will find it's own route to Socialism but terminology does seem to play an important role. That and I do have a bit of bitterness on the term mass immigration because all our far-right and fascist parties get their politics from what's happening in the US and Britain so the cunts love to talk about the "mass immigration" in the US and how they believe it gives their movement legitimacy.

As said tho, all in all I do agree with the ACPs take on immigration. And of course I definitely understand you about the Democrats/DSAs take on immigration being for the benefit of capital. It's the same here with Fine Gael/Fianna Fáil and the former revolutionary party Sinn Féin. My take is to fight their exploitative system of immigration, until we take control.