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  • NTA but talk to the "planners" and offer to plan your next trip.

    They're probably very familiar with Japan and how to make things work there.

    You want to go elsewhere, you bear the mental load to decide where and how and you spend the time needed to book hotels, flights and plan activities.

  • YWBTA because you said they organise/book everything and pay.

    If you dont want to go dont. If you wanna go somewhere else you organise and pay for it.

    Oh sorry to clarify my parents pay for my ticket. The ticket and hotel are booked by my older cousins but they get paid back by my parents before they book everything.

    You are entitled to voice your opinion and refuse to go. But if you keep quiet, no one will know your opinion. Since you're quite young, i'll tell you how to go about it with minimum fuss:

    • Where do you want to go? Vietnam?
    • Start asking questions randomly about vietnam to your parents, like what's the weather like, where's your hometown etc etc
    • Start saying that it'd be nice to go and see the country and your hometown - that's the hint.
    • Then ask your parents if they can pay for you to go to Vietnam during winter break. There, done and settled. No need to mention Japan at all.
    • If they ask why not Japan, just say that you want to see new things.

    Just don’t go. You’re not even paying for it

    Obviously if the choice was a trip to Japan or no trip at all most people would take the trip to Japan. Nothing wrong with floating the idea of a different destination one year though and seeing if there's anyone else who's been feeling similarly.

    Good way to never get invited in the future to any trips, and is no trip better than a trip that they admit is good, just repeating

    I don't blame you for not wanting to go to the same country again and again. I love Japan as well and I'm actually here rn, my 4th time! (with my partner this time tho, not my family) However if you want them to change it up, you should propose your own brought itinerary (and include estimated total costs) to whatever country you desire to them and try your best to convince them to go elsewhere.

    Let me tell you as someone who plans their own itinerary. Booking the hotel(s) is the EASIEST PART of the itinerary!! The hardest part is actually putting the plan together. If you want to have a good time, you have to search places of interests (including food if you're into that), how long it takes to get there, what route, how long the average person spends there, how much the costs are on average, etc, and also organise how to make it a smooth trip so you're not going back and forth so often.

    For example, imagine putting place A in Day 1 and place B on Day 3, then you realise place A & B are in the same area and you could've just done them both on the same day.

    I'm going in a group of 7 total, my partner and his friends, and FUCK ME, it's the first time for 5 of them and none of them have planned any holiday of their own at all. It is horrible and frustrating to the point that I just did my own itinerary and I told them if they don't want to follow it, they can figure out their own shit lol

    Then simply dont go and ask your parents if you can go to vietnam. If they say yes you could even ask some of your cousins if they would like to join you. But you need to also be ok with them saying no/being uninterested.

    I see no mention of whether you ever suggested anywhere else. Have you? Is there another reason why the others always book Japan, such as language? You mentioned Korea and that it was too complicated to go there. Have you thought about easing the older ones burden and offering to work with them while they plan the trip? They may like returning to Japan yearly because it's less work to plan the trip.  Please consider the other advice here and start working toward other options. It's probably too late for this year, but start considering the logistics of a different place next year.

    YWBTA

    You’re complaining about having free international trips. Most people never get to travel abroad..

    She would not be the asshole for raising an opinion, get a fucking grip you lunatic

    Come on, this isn't even an AH situation at all. No one is the AH here. OP just wants to suggest a different location for once. It's not a suggestion to murder someone.

  • NAH. You're allowed to want to go someone else as much as other people are allowed to go to the same place they enjoy again and again

  • NTA but you need to communicate. I LOVE going to Hawaii but wouldn't want to go every year. Ive been to Japan (Sapporo) and would like to visit again but... not every year.

    There are so many amazing parts of our earth, I bet the organizers would welcome new destinations. They're probably stuck in a "this is the tradition, we do this because we know this" mentality. Ive been there myself.

    Japan is very different from Hawaii in that there are many different areas to visit, and repeatability is less of an issue. Tokyo Osaka Kyoto Hokkaido are just the tip of the iceberg.

    As someone who has visited almost every country that region, I can see why many people default to Japan. Especially so if you want somewhere with safety and comfort. You get shopping, great food, and even great nature depending on which part you go to

    Korea is similar but is basically an inferior version of Japan and Koreans are kinda assholeish if you are Asian - they have a superiority complex against other Asians

    Other nearby countries can get messy. The only other nice country is China which is pretty advanced nowadays but is tricky if you dont know Mandarin

    I’m from Singapore and 90% of us pretty much go to Japan every holiday for these reasons

    …an inferior version of Japan? And yet you accuse Koreans of racism?

    🤔

    I'm just saying it from a holidaying perspective. A holiday experience is almost strictly better in Japan than in Korea. Food, shopping, nature, safety etc.

    Of course you wanna go at least once to Korea to experience the culture, but it doesnt have the repeatability of Japan

    In fact I would say the same for Taiwan vs China as well. 10-15 years ago, Taiwan was a better version of China to go for holidays. But China has propelled itself so far ahead now that there is almost no reason to go to Taiwan over China for a holiday

  • NAH it’s understandable why you feel tired of the same place and why you wanna change it up.

    I think telling them to stop picking it will do the opposite of what you want though, you should tell them instead how you wish to go see where your family is from. Maybe try getting your cousins on board before going to the ones that call the shots.

    Do your homework about Vietnam and show them why it’d be fun and interesting going there. If they don’t want to give up on Japan, maybe suggest to do a week in Vietnam and the rest in Japan (or the opposite). Doubt it’d happen this year since winter break is about to start but you can work it up for next year.

    "If they don’t want to give up on Japan, maybe suggest to do a week in Vietnam and the rest in Japan (or the opposite). "

    Bit of a trek, they're a 7 hours flight from each other direct. Long haul flight to Japan, then long haul to Vietnam, then long haul back to Japan, then long haul home. Makes more sense to do one or the other, I think.

    Hmmm then another destination that’s closer to Japan or something

  • No one is forcing you to join them in Japan. If that is where the majority want to go then it’s your choice to join or sit out and pay to go where you want to go.

  • Here's a thought. How about you just don't go if you don't like Japan? If you're paying towards it then it's your money so stop paying, don't go to Japan and book a holiday to somewhere else. If you're not paying for it then simply don't go if you don't want to.

    I'll say NAH. I guess there's no harm in asking but there's also no harm in them saying no to your request and no harm in them continuing to go to Japan if they like it.

  • Who pays for it all? That very much influences your AH status.

    This is our family trip so it’s kind of mixed, the older people who have stable jobs pay for themselves but a lot of us are still in school so our parents pay. But the people 23-27 are booking it on their credit card.

    Have you suggested a different destination? I'd personally suggest Vietnam first since your family is from there- you could phrase it as in wanting to see where your family comes from. It will add a little extra weight to the argument.

    This sounds weird, so the 23-27 year olds can afford their own trip, or credit card it, at least, but are happy to take along 15 year olds with no parents?

    It's a family tradition for them? Pretty clearly established in the post and not weird at all.

    I mean I might come off as biased because I’m more closely in age with the 15 year olds but I think they pull their own weight and aren’t really irresponsible. At times their humor could be more immature but from a young age my whole family was flying solo.

    Yeah sorry I'm sure it's a dynamic that works for your family, just personally if I was that age and paying my own way, if a relative told me I had to supervise a child for the trip I wouldn't be happy about it. That said I'd say your NTA for wanting to go somewhere different for a change. However, if I was paying my own way for my own trip and the 15 year old I was being asked to supervise started suggesting changes, I wouldn't have much patience for it.

    Edit: I'm aware you're not the 15 year old, just suggesting how it might feel for the older cousins.

    Ok well I'd say the people paying for themselves would probably get the most say in where you're all going, especially since they're the ones responsible for a group of minor too. That's not to say you can't or shouldn't recommend going somewhere else, but I'd phrase it as "hey, this year could we go to X because of Y?" Instead of just saying you don't want to go to Japan again. Phrasing it that way could just get you kicked off the trip entirely.

  • Oh what I would give to go to Japan while someone pays for me

    lol it’s not too bad if you if you can book ahead way in advance !

  • NAH. Do some research and give a PowerPoint presentation on why you want Vietnam (or whichever destination) to be considered for future holidays. Or suggest everyone does a short presentation/pitch on which country they nominate for future consideration and hold a vote. The important thing is to value how much time and energy it takes to plan a big group holiday. If you come with well researched accom/flight/itinerary suggestions, your older cousins and siblings will feel less frustrated by your request to mix things up. Good luck!

  • NTA it is natural to want to visit other places and perfectly fine to ask. Just keep in mind that they might say no. If they don’t want to go somewhere else you can either talk to your parents about organizing a holiday for your self and a friend or someone to somewhere you want to visit or you can go to Japan and try to see some part of Japan you haven’t been to before.

  • NTA at all… but I’ve traveled to a lot of countries in my life and if I could do it all over again I’d probably just repeatedly go to Japan.

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  • NTA. Liking Japan does not mean you need the season pass. It is fair to ask for variety especially if you are all paying and traveling together. Just frame it as wanting new experiences not hating the trips they plan.

  • Organize and plan your own trip. Tell them about it. If others want to join, great. Then, continue planning, booking, etc.

    If others really just want to go to Japan again, then go ahead with your own solo trip. It’s fun!

  • YTA if they’re paying. When you pay for your own trips, go see the world.

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    I am 18F and I have a big family that is lucky enough to afford international trips. For the past 4-5 years though, every family vacation has been to Japan, usually during winter school breaks. It is mostly just me and my cousins going, ages around 15 to 27, without parents. I want to clarify that I do like Japan, I really do think it is a great place and I understand why people enjoy going there. I am just starting to feel really tired of going to the same country over and over again. It feels repetitive and Japan is also pretty expensive compared to other places in Asia. What also bugs me is that our family is originally from Vietnam. We don’t go to Vietnam or nearby countries at all, it is always Japan. They considered going to Korea but the idea was too complicated for them though. I feel like there are so many other places we could go, especially ones that might be cheaper or more meaningful or just a little bit more memorable.

    Doing this would seem normal and reasonable for any other circumstance in my opinion, but a lot of the time it’s my older cousins and siblings (ages 23-27) booking the hotels and tickets for us younger kids. I don’t want to seem unthankful I do think they do a lot of planning and research into each trip, I’m just so tired of Japan.

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  • YWNBTA if you ask, but if they say no & you keep pushing it then yes, you would be. You’re an adult being offered a FREE trip, be grateful you’re going anywhere & if you don’t like it, don’t go.

  • Vietnamese livinh abroad here, thats literally my dreaaam 🤤 we’re in Vietnam every year and I do enjoy it a lot but man do I miss Japan

    Vietnam is so nice I wish I got the opportunity to visit more! Honestly it’s probably just me but I think I like Vietnam more lol

    Yess i totally understand, Vietnam is amazing! I am germaphobic so the cleanness of Japan is what makes me like it more than Vietnam tbh, I also love Japanese products and food. Hope u can visit Vietnam soon!

  • I totally get why you wanna visit other countries. But you know how Japan is a destination for most of Asia for tourism.   

    Interestingly, I’m not sure that I would choose Seoul.   If your family is open to traveling to Europe, a better analogue would be going to England or France.    

  • I find this set up so weird, so I struggle to pass a judgment. But my understanding is that OP 's family is happy to pay for the trip and OP is old enough to plan a different trip. Is maybe a concern with safety? And if your family willing to pay only if you go to Japan ? Also if it's the older cousins planning it have you asked them why they want to go there over and over again ?

  • NAH I empathise with your feelings about it. My partner is from overseas and the only time we ever take leave off work, it’s to fly back to his home country. It’s a beautiful place but culturally alike to where we live already, and it’s not really a ‘holiday’ when you’re zigzagging around the country seeing all his friends and family. I’m not exactly sick of it, but it would be nice to zigzag across somewhere else for a change.

  • Have you ever made a suggestion to the cousins? If they seem to be avoiding Vietnam why not say “Hey, have you guys ever considered Korea? That could be a cool place to visit. From KPop to movies like Parasite to shows like Squid Games, Korea seems to be at the forefront of modern culture. Maybe we should check it out.”

  • YWNBTA. Ask them to book Vietnam, Cambodia, or Thailand.

  • NTA. Don't go.

  • Tell them to get out of their comfort zone. There are other places to visit such as New Zealand, Australia, Egypt, China, the UAE (although, they are pretty strict with some things), The European countries, etc. There are so many countries to visit. I have never been to Japan and would love to go, but not every time.

  • NTA

    It sounds to me like the group you travel with has found their comfort and going to Japan each year. It's become their routine and they're likely not going to change it. And let's say they do change it because you say something. They probably are going to be boogers about it the whole time, pout and be passive aggressive so they can say, "yeah we're never going anywhere but Japan."

    I could be wrong. They simply could just not have any other ideas every year 🤷‍♀️ and could possibly love somewhere new!

    My thing is ive noticed over the years once people find their habits thats it. You said they talked about Korea but couldnt even talk it out? Thats the reasoning for my comment. A bunch of almost 30 yr olds who are USED TO international travel coudlnt 'figure out' a trip to Korea? I dont buy it.

    I'd say if you wanted international trip this year at all just go with them to Japan. Have what fun you can. And then start planning a trip for yourself somewhere else next year without your cousins. Finding new friends or other family to travel with from here on out might be your best bet to see more places. Good luck Op and travel safe!

  • Throw everyone for a loop, go to Costa Rica.

  • I love Japan and lived there for years. I go frequently thanks to the exchange rate and cheap tickets on ZipAir.

    I’m currently in Paris for my trip this winter.

  • I can't say either way.. Too much info missing.. Are multiple of you having that feeling or just you.. are you doing the same things, or different things.. Have you talked with anyone about it??

  • NTA if you brought it up, but you have to be ready for them to have already made up their minds. In which case your choices are to either not go this year, or go and suck it up to hang with the fam.

    IMO you would be rude to demand they change if they don't want to. You'd make a bigger statement by just not going anyway, use the money your folks give you to do a different trip with some friends or something.

  • Japan wasn't even open for tourism that long (because of Covid), how did you travel there for the past 4-5 years? Was this post written by a bot?

  • NTA as long as you are willing to take an active role in the organization of the trip, you can't just ask and wait for others to do the work, you want a change you take the lead in that change, do your research and pre planning and show the rest your proposed alternative trip when trying to convince them. Then the group will decide.

  • While I understand getting tired of going to the same place again and again, YWBTA. Travel is a privilege, specially international ones. If you aren't happy with the destination, just don't go. No one is forcing you to go. Someone people never further than Florida their entire lives and would absolutely do anything for a chance to afford repeat international travels.

  • Y, you are TA. I don’t really think yr an A, I just think you should seem grateful to be going anywhere nice like that. Do you have money? Maybe you can break away & go to Vietnam -or another place you’d like to go during the vacay? Don’t be the Debbie Downer here.

  • YTA you’re entitled af. Pay for your own trips.

    Wtf? She can ask if they can change the destination, it doesn’t make her entitled.

  • Japan is so overrated imo