I met Dina (f30) through work. Turned out my bf knew her fiancé, Mitch (m32), and so we ended up becoming good friends. Dina and Mitch have one son, Alex, who is almost six. I met Alex when he just turned two. He didn’t talk much and just chilled while we hung out. He seemed very sweet, and has always been very smart. Once Alex was around two and a half though, it’s like a switch flipped.
It started with him beginning to call his mom ugly. No real concern with this at first- kids learn words and use them, it happens. Dina did start getting frustrated with it though when it became one of the only things he would ever say to her. Everyone constantly assured her that it was just a phase and they would get past it. Unfortunately, it only amped up from there. Alex began to use more insults, and it was no longer limited to mom. By the time he was three, Alex would -seemingly out of nowhere- call anyone and everyone mean names (stupid, ugly, dumb). It was around this time as well that Alex started trying to hurt people. For example, a few times, he had taken his fork during mealtimes and tossed it to the floor. When Dina or Mitch would get up to get it Alex would say “I want you to step on it Mommy/Daddy.” And when asked why, Alex would reply “So you get hurt.” Things of similar nature began to happen frequently. At home, with other family, at Alex’s daycare. He would never physically attack anyone but he indirectly tried to hurt people, as well as straight up telling adults and other kids that he wanted them to be harmed. (i.e. he told his grandmother that he wanted her to break her legs, told his teacher at daycare that he wanted another child to fall off the swing and hit their head, told me once that he wanted mommy to fall down the stairs).
Dina and Mitch were already at their wits end trying to figure out what was going on with Alex. He had extremely limited and completely supervised screen-time, neither of them spoke in such a way around him in any context, and his teachers at daycare had assured that they didn’t allow the kids to speak or play violently. Dina got Alex into therapy as soon as she could. Over the next year or so, I watched Dina and Mitch do everything they could to help Alex. Therapy, paediatricians, a children’s psychologist, occupational therapy. They eliminated screen-time all together and tried to get Alex involved in plenty of social activities. Nothing helped. Alex had to be pulled from tots soccer and tumbling because of the way he spoke and interacted with others. According to all of the specialists, there was “nothing that could be done” with Alex and that “he was just learning and developing in his own way” despite D&M’s pleas for help and insistence that their entire lives had become affected by this.
Currently Alex is nearly six and I’ve basically watched the light die from Dina’s eyes over the last few years. My bf says that Mitch hides it well, but he’s worn out and defeated as well. Dina tries not to take Alex out to the stores anymore as he will insult complete strangers (just last week he called a woman standing in the checkout line a “fat bitch” totally unprovoked and Dina was absolutely humiliated). Alex calls his insults his “funny jokes” now and will laugh after saying them. He’s on thin ice at his daycare for threats to other kids and is constantly being separated from his group. Alex directly threatens anyone now. “I’m going to choke you out.” “I’m going to stab you until you die.”. The last time I was at D&M’s house he approached me and said “It would be funny if you got hit by a car.”
I feel bad but I truly can’t stand to be around him anymore. I’ve watched Dina and Mitch try everything with Alex to discourage and end this behavior but nothing works. Alex is on a wait list currently for another psychiatrist and for D&M’s sake I hope that this one will actually help. I genuinely think this kid is going to grow up and kill someone, if not one or both of them. I’m so certain that this kid is just straight up evil but I guess… AIO?
Update: Dina actually did take her son for an exorcism earlier this year. After a thorough investigation, the priest concluded that Alex wasn't possessed by any demon and that all his evil came from within. What's more, the evil is uninfluenced by any external people, media, or circumstances.
"He's not possessed by a demon," shared the priest over a catch-up pint with me. "Rather, the boy is more like a demon himself. However, I hesitate to definitively label Alex as a 'demon' as it implies he's a creature simply performing his natural behaviours - thus excusing him of personal responsibility. I feel, very strongly, that it's imperative to heap as much personal and moral responsibility onto this six-year-old as possible."
The psychiatrist, who was also attending our catch-up pint, agreed with everything the priest said. She'd also performed her own thorough investigation, spanning several months. So, now Alex's human and chosen evil is confirmed by both religion and science. Who wants to bag on him?
As a woman who's actively chosen not to have children, despite societal pressure to do so, the childfree subreddit makes my skin crawl. There's a difference between not wanting to have kids, and denying that kids are human.
I've known one evil person in my life, and I mean unabashedly evil. I can't imagine, after seeing what that is like in person, ever assigning that label to a small child.
This might be an odd question- but did they move home around the time this behaviour started?
lol. Oh, hey, the suggestion of the start of a possession horror movie. I got the vibes that the troll either read or watched "We Need to Talk About Kevin" for the first time and got inspired.
OOP: some people are just evil, with no cause or pathology. Draw your own conclusions
Reddit: this child needs to be locked up or worse because he exists. This idea will have no ramifications on the treatment of mentally divergent/ ill people.
Yeah life isn't a horror movie, if a kid was like that it's entirely a learned behavior or a response to trauma. So the parents would likely be beating and berating this 3 year old whenever someone wasn't looking.
Even mental illness wouldn't just manifest like this out of nowhere.
A more believable "this kid is a future serial killer" would've been to direct this behavior towards animals. Would've gotten way more engagement too. There just isn't really a scenario where a kid acts like this towards their parents that doesn't imply heavy abuse.
According to all of the specialists, there was “nothing that could be done” with Alex and that “he was just learning and developing in his own way”
Fuck anyone who believes this. The odds of finding one mental health professional who says this isn’t too bad, there are shitty professionals everywhere. Two? Maybe, but getting less plausible. More than four or five all saying there’s nothing to be done? lol no.
I remember working in a support team for a family with a kid like this and the parents refused to change the overstimulating environment if their home or the rough, aggressive way they played with the kids and then were big mad we didn’t “fix” their kid. Ugh.
Oh you would find plenty of mental health professionals who will say "he was just learning and developing in his own way"... for completely normal, developmentally appropriate childhood behaviour that the OOP is grossly exaggerating and embelishing (or just straight up lying about) for internet asspats.
Well, you saw how they treat children from second marriages or the result of infidelity, or children in general... what can you expect from those subreddits?
Guys, I know you’re worried but I PROMISE you this is not how real life works.
They don’t just say you’re evil and then send a priest.
In real life there are like 20 different kinds of therapy and there are hundreds of medications.
Pharmaceutical companies want their money. Of course they would try meds. Even on a 6 year old.
There’s a 5 year old in my daughter’s class that takes meds 4 times a day because he has violent outbursts but he’s in a regular school in a regular class room.
No amount of medication or counseling will work. He'll be committed and institutionalized at some point due to being a danger to himself or others. I've seen it a hundred times.
That whole post and comments are so terribly vile. Even if half of what the post describes of the child is true, there is no way the parents are actually parenting/treating their child, and/or the child has been getting abused. But the "friend" will pat their own shoulder for calling out EVIL for what it is. Nauseating.
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I think my friend’s son might be evil AIO
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I met Dina (f30) through work. Turned out my bf knew her fiancé, Mitch (m32), and so we ended up becoming good friends. Dina and Mitch have one son, Alex, who is almost six. I met Alex when he just turned two. He didn’t talk much and just chilled while we hung out. He seemed very sweet, and has always been very smart. Once Alex was around two and a half though, it’s like a switch flipped.
It started with him beginning to call his mom ugly. No real concern with this at first- kids learn words and use them, it happens. Dina did start getting frustrated with it though when it became one of the only things he would ever say to her. Everyone constantly assured her that it was just a phase and they would get past it. Unfortunately, it only amped up from there. Alex began to use more insults, and it was no longer limited to mom. By the time he was three, Alex would -seemingly out of nowhere- call anyone and everyone mean names (stupid, ugly, dumb). It was around this time as well that Alex started trying to hurt people. For example, a few times, he had taken his fork during mealtimes and tossed it to the floor. When Dina or Mitch would get up to get it Alex would say “I want you to step on it Mommy/Daddy.” And when asked why, Alex would reply “So you get hurt.” Things of similar nature began to happen frequently. At home, with other family, at Alex’s daycare. He would never physically attack anyone but he indirectly tried to hurt people, as well as straight up telling adults and other kids that he wanted them to be harmed. (i.e. he told his grandmother that he wanted her to break her legs, told his teacher at daycare that he wanted another child to fall off the swing and hit their head, told me once that he wanted mommy to fall down the stairs).
Dina and Mitch were already at their wits end trying to figure out what was going on with Alex. He had extremely limited and completely supervised screen-time, neither of them spoke in such a way around him in any context, and his teachers at daycare had assured that they didn’t allow the kids to speak or play violently. Dina got Alex into therapy as soon as she could. Over the next year or so, I watched Dina and Mitch do everything they could to help Alex. Therapy, paediatricians, a children’s psychologist, occupational therapy. They eliminated screen-time all together and tried to get Alex involved in plenty of social activities. Nothing helped. Alex had to be pulled from tots soccer and tumbling because of the way he spoke and interacted with others. According to all of the specialists, there was “nothing that could be done” with Alex and that “he was just learning and developing in his own way” despite D&M’s pleas for help and insistence that their entire lives had become affected by this.
Currently Alex is nearly six and I’ve basically watched the light die from Dina’s eyes over the last few years. My bf says that Mitch hides it well, but he’s worn out and defeated as well. Dina tries not to take Alex out to the stores anymore as he will insult complete strangers (just last week he called a woman standing in the checkout line a “fat bitch” totally unprovoked and Dina was absolutely humiliated). Alex calls his insults his “funny jokes” now and will laugh after saying them. He’s on thin ice at his daycare for threats to other kids and is constantly being separated from his group. Alex directly threatens anyone now. “I’m going to choke you out.” “I’m going to stab you until you die.”. The last time I was at D&M’s house he approached me and said “It would be funny if you got hit by a car.”
I feel bad but I truly can’t stand to be around him anymore. I’ve watched Dina and Mitch try everything with Alex to discourage and end this behavior but nothing works. Alex is on a wait list currently for another psychiatrist and for D&M’s sake I hope that this one will actually help. I genuinely think this kid is going to grow up and kill someone, if not one or both of them. I’m so certain that this kid is just straight up evil but I guess… AIO?
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Redditpsychiatrists whena post vaguely implyingdeviant child behavior without context dropsUpdate: Dina actually did take her son for an exorcism earlier this year. After a thorough investigation, the priest concluded that Alex wasn't possessed by any demon and that all his evil came from within. What's more, the evil is uninfluenced by any external people, media, or circumstances.
"He's not possessed by a demon," shared the priest over a catch-up pint with me. "Rather, the boy is more like a demon himself. However, I hesitate to definitively label Alex as a 'demon' as it implies he's a creature simply performing his natural behaviours - thus excusing him of personal responsibility. I feel, very strongly, that it's imperative to heap as much personal and moral responsibility onto this six-year-old as possible."
The psychiatrist, who was also attending our catch-up pint, agreed with everything the priest said. She'd also performed her own thorough investigation, spanning several months. So, now Alex's human and chosen evil is confirmed by both religion and science. Who wants to bag on him?
"Straight up evil" is a term we're just unblinkingly applying to a six year old huh? Well done reddit.
I’ve seen cross posts here from the child free subreddit, those posts assure me that all six year olds ARE straight up evil.
As a woman who's actively chosen not to have children, despite societal pressure to do so, the childfree subreddit makes my skin crawl. There's a difference between not wanting to have kids, and denying that kids are human.
I've known one evil person in my life, and I mean unabashedly evil. I can't imagine, after seeing what that is like in person, ever assigning that label to a small child.
lol. Oh, hey, the suggestion of the start of a possession horror movie. I got the vibes that the troll either read or watched "We Need to Talk About Kevin" for the first time and got inspired.
OOP: some people are just evil, with no cause or pathology. Draw your own conclusions
Reddit: this child needs to be locked up or worse because he exists. This idea will have no ramifications on the treatment of mentally divergent/ ill people.
Yeah life isn't a horror movie, if a kid was like that it's entirely a learned behavior or a response to trauma. So the parents would likely be beating and berating this 3 year old whenever someone wasn't looking.
Even mental illness wouldn't just manifest like this out of nowhere.
A more believable "this kid is a future serial killer" would've been to direct this behavior towards animals. Would've gotten way more engagement too. There just isn't really a scenario where a kid acts like this towards their parents that doesn't imply heavy abuse.
b-b-but maybe they moved houses before he started acting like this👻😱
Mental illness can develop without environmental or trauma based triggers
According to all of the specialists, there was “nothing that could be done” with Alex and that “he was just learning and developing in his own way”
Fuck anyone who believes this. The odds of finding one mental health professional who says this isn’t too bad, there are shitty professionals everywhere. Two? Maybe, but getting less plausible. More than four or five all saying there’s nothing to be done? lol no.
I remember working in a support team for a family with a kid like this and the parents refused to change the overstimulating environment if their home or the rough, aggressive way they played with the kids and then were big mad we didn’t “fix” their kid. Ugh.
Oh you would find plenty of mental health professionals who will say "he was just learning and developing in his own way"... for completely normal, developmentally appropriate childhood behaviour that the OOP is grossly exaggerating and embelishing (or just straight up lying about) for internet asspats.
Is he going to be defeated by the martial artist mother while on his way to stab a baby?
pls😭
Well, you saw how they treat children from second marriages or the result of infidelity, or children in general... what can you expect from those subreddits?
i laughed out loud at the title OP, you've got a way with words
Guys, I know you’re worried but I PROMISE you this is not how real life works.
They don’t just say you’re evil and then send a priest.
In real life there are like 20 different kinds of therapy and there are hundreds of medications.
Pharmaceutical companies want their money. Of course they would try meds. Even on a 6 year old.
There’s a 5 year old in my daughter’s class that takes meds 4 times a day because he has violent outbursts but he’s in a regular school in a regular class room.
I promise this is entirely, unabashedly fake AF.
https://preview.redd.it/85jlwnds4z8g1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dfc8f20d6b6cdf54139b09201c431b89f1ba8119
This comment made me laugh. These idiots have no clue what they are talking about.
Never change, Reddit
That whole post and comments are so terribly vile. Even if half of what the post describes of the child is true, there is no way the parents are actually parenting/treating their child, and/or the child has been getting abused. But the "friend" will pat their own shoulder for calling out EVIL for what it is. Nauseating.
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