I have rethought emotions since taking the red pill and I now view them as tools to be used, as opposed to my previous belief that they were things out of my control. For example, I now designate anger as a tool to be used when exercising. I do my best to not react out of anger when somebody does something that makes me mad, and instead save it for a later time. When I go to the gym and I'm about to do a set I recall what the person said and use all my anger then to lift the weights. I have found using this method for anger has proven to be more effective towards my goals than just exploding on some drunk dickhead at a party would have been. If your goal was to explode at rude drunkards at a party then I'd say save your anger for when that situation arises and knock him out (usually doesn't end well for anyone involved in my experience).
Aside from anger, I try to use other strong emotions such as love, jealousy, lust, etc. to achieve my goals as opposed to running my life. I use love to improve my relationship with my parents who have earned it and to cultivate friendships that will be beneficial to me as opposed to blowing all my love on somebody who will take it and give nothing in return (I did this alot in the past and it drained me emotionally). I try to focus hate on habits that keep me from achieving my goals. I try to focus emotions that impact me negatively such as lust and sadness towards creative outlets such as music and drawing. I'm posting this because I am wondering if anyone else views emotions like this, and if not how do you view emotions?
Comment of mine from my blog relevant to this topic:
Question: why is it that logic is automatically of more value than emotion? Is it valid to use logic to determine that (even assuming you could)?
My response:
That's a great post. I guess I should have added to my post how you use specific emotions to your advantage, but you answered that as well, generally speaking. I agree that logic almost always trumps emotion for achieving goals, whatever they may be, and I liked the way you put it as " we are beings “tainted” with emotion". I'm sure we would advance much farther as a civilization if only logic was used. Thanks for the reply.
Oh definitely.
'If you want something really important to be done you must not merely satisfy the reason, you must move the heart also.' — Mahatma Gandhi
Unfortunately, logic and emotion are intertwined, any perceived separation of either is merely an illusion. You either have a strong emotional preference to have logic dictate your perception, so ironically have a strong emotion as a basis for rational preference, or logic is legitimately dwarfing emotion in your mind to the point that you believe emotion has no influence (even though it does ever so slightly.)
Channelling/redirecting emotion towards desired goals is more productive for the individual than the total annihilation of emotion itself. Ironically without emotion, you probably less desire, and without desire, you lose motivation. So emotion is incredibly important, it just needs keeping in check. I'll probably develop that comment, my thoughts here, and a few other thoughts pertaining to this topic into a blog post, so look out for that.
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If you mean "logic as people normally practice it", then yes, but "logic", especially when used by the scientifically trained, is a mathematical process that is anything BUT subjective. It is as objective as the commutative law of addition. But of course, the data and premises one uses in the objective process of logic may not be so objective.
Using the best available facts, and logic as a mathematics, there is nothing objective.
Exactly. As a matter of fact, it's impossible to make decisions without them. They prompt the logical processing. Here's a science journal: "The role of emotion in decision-making: A cognitive neuroeconomic approach towards understanding sexual risk behavior"
http://www.j-biomed-inform.com/article/S1532-0464(06)00045-1/fulltext#Neuroscience, section "3.1. Neuroscience research on emotion"...
In other words: receive stimuli => detect stimuli => process stimuli with limbic system, specifically the amygdala => attaches emotional significance to stimulus => information sent to upper regions of the brain like the pre-frontal cortex.
http://bigthink.com/experts-corner/decisions-are-emotional-not-logical-the-neuroscience-behind-decision-making
People who have had brain damage to the limbic system had a difficult to an impossible time making decisions as simple as deciding what to eat.
Antonio Damasio's definition of emotion...
Descartes Error by Antonio Damsio,
I also believe that we all have the ability to harness, channel, or control any and of all of our emotions. I too find myself in the gym fantasizing about someone or something that makes me extremely angry and channel all of that hate into the weights which is an amazing feeling.
One thing I'd like to bring to light is the benefits of Meditation. Recently, I've started to "separate" myself from my feelings and emotions through meditation to better understand my own mind, my own feelings, and my own patterns of suffering that I bring upon myself with negative thought processes.
By separating myself I mean that I recognize the feeling or emotion the moment is happening, whether it be anger, fear, jealousy, etc. and I close my eyes and try to analyze what I am truly feeling. If I feel a wave of overwhelming stress I'll close my eyes and say to myself "This is what stress feels like. Feel your heartbeat rise. Feel the hotness in your head. Feel the feeling of wanting to jump out of your own skin." As I do this, I practice simple breathing techniques, such as inhaling and exhaling deeply through the nose, over and over again while I analyze the emotion or feeling.
Through this practice, you can start to learn the language of your feelings and emotions. Once you can speak the language of your feelings and emotions, you have total control of yourself, your reactions, and your mind.
Many people have unchangeable mindsets about themselves. I tried my best not to have many mindsets.* To root my identity**, my self in as little as possible. And I find it incredibly easy to evoke certain emotions, to do away with emotions or addictions.
*I can't do that. I am sad. All that bullshit excuses people tell themselves that are holding themselves back.
** I am a democrat/liberal/conservative/pangender/indy music liking/bla bla bla all those bullshit labels people use to describe themselves.
On a side note, when my GF freaks out because she thinks I don't love her and starts sobbing and all that stuff, first I try to change her focus ti a happy memory, then I fix her shallow breathing and tell her to do deep breaths, then I take her for a walk. She is very emotional, can't control herself when she is in such an emotional state, she calls it the irrational phase. But I can make her control herself. I even told her about this before, but she would never think of doing it herself in that irrational phase but I can make her do it.
We could discuss about why it works but it has something to do with when you are happy you behave differently and you trick your body into thinking everything is ok. When you are sad your posture, breathing and focus sucks. Posture is slacking, breathing is shallow, focus is on something negative. Change that and you will be happier. It just works.
I'm quite partial to having a certain mindset about myself, "I'm a person who gets things done" has never done me wrong.
I agree, and pretty much came to the same conclusions, although anger is not so much my issue. I've found displays of emotion reduce frame.
I believe if man can master his emotional state, he can conquer any form of adversity. Humility and introspection can help in these areas. Do not let anything else in this life define you, or your thoughts, except yourself.