I’d rather take a 🔫 to the face and exit this world. Wish I had the courage. At this point I’m waiting for a stray bullet to hit me. Might move to a high crime neighborhood.
7-3 is the best imo, you leave work and there’s still a day left instead of just an evening, but yeah I agree with the variety. A lack of variety is how we enter autopilot and years pass by without us realising
Unfortunately, that’s not an option. It’s not like we chose this.
although I saw a psychologist for a while and she said we did choose it, and we also chose our parents. I guess it’s possible, but I don’t remember choosing it or them.
Some people take planned sabbaticals from work to go travelling with intention or to focus on personal goals/projects. I know not everyone is in a position to afford this any time they want, but it's definitely a thing among those who worked and saved for it. A job isn't someone's entire existence.
Sorry, we're gonna need you to come in on your 'having a life' day. Also remember you're on call, so don't be gone at any time because if you can't come in when we call you're fired. Good luck paying for your rent to just survive.
lol well thats no problem because i only work 3 12’s with 4 days off so coming in on my day off is overtime which still leaves me with 3 days off ..as far as on call goes yeah im gonna have to say “kiss me ass” every time u call, respectfully!
You are jobless and work a job you hate, there's a such thing as a happy medium. I don't like going to work as much as anyone else but I've worked a lot of shitty jobs in my life to understand the good ones and my tech job in the office may be boring some days but it beats the back breaking warehouse work I used to do.
Yeah, I've had a lot of shitty jobs that reminds me to be thankful for mine. It's not the best but at least I can afford to do things. When I was jobless everything was limited.
Was tired of being poor, went to school for it and just stuck with the process. I didn't get a job until a year after I graduated but I never gave up. You can turn your entire life around if you really want to, but the key is you have to want it enough and not be content with where you are. There's no magical advice to give, hard work truly pays off.
Thanks for the reply. Ik this a stupid question but how to get that hunger? Can u tell that? Let's say I don't feel like learning sumthing but I have to how do I attack??
There's no such thing as "I don't feel like doing it", that's not a motivation problem, it's a discipline one. I don't want to go to the gym every day, but if I don't eventually my body will look like shit, if I don't go to work I won't get paid, will get fired and might lose my apartment. You have to weigh the pros and cons of your decisions, see the light at the end of the tunnel and think about the short and long term effects of your choices daily. If the cons don't outweigh the pros it will be hard to change your mindset.
As I said bro, there's no universal advice on this subject, everyone has their own journey. If you want it bad you'll find a way, even if you have to sacrifice your current lifestyle for the long term gains. Save every dime and invest your money wisely into your future. Plenty of people changed their life from poverty but you have to trust your gut and the process.
It took me more than 7 years after college to get the right amount of motivation. I worked in a call center for 3 years. That alone will give a lot of people enough motivation to get an education.
I’ve cleaned dry shit from reservoirs in a wastewater treatment plant, cleaned the inside of a furnace at an incineration plant, and assisted in inspecting sewers, where I stood covered in shit up to my knees as it was released from an apartment building. I saw toilet paper, shit, and all kinds of things flow by me. I’ve worked as a waiter, which is honestly worse than all the other things combined.
Once I started at university, I had all the motivation I needed. I never got good grades in school, and it was the hardest thing I’ve ever done. I knew I had to get through it, I couldn’t fail. When I finished my master’s in computer science, I was so stressed that I had lost half my vocabulary. I couldn’t find the words when I needed them. I was cooked. I got an A+ on my master’s thesis, landed a job before finishing my master’s, and a salary higher than I ever imagined.
This is the answer. Important note...not your hobby...but you worded it correctly: a related job.
If you're passionate about minute details (like you enjoy painting and creating warhammer 40k miniatures), you probably like jobs that require attention to detail where you aren't rushed, as long as you get it done correctly.
As one example. But find the kind of actions you enjoy, and get a job doing something where you enjoy the basic actions of the job.
Just don't turn your hobby into a job unless you're REALLY passionate about it.
I don't know where this "saying" comes from, but it's not some universal truth. I do what I love, have done it for 40 years, and love it as much today as I did back then. I know many other people in my field who feel the same.
Wel...lol, I've got news for you there, too... ;) Seriously, I think this just goes to show, it really depends on how you approach these things. Why wouldn't I want to wake up to my favorite song every day? And, since I love what I do, I don't hate my alarm or waking up.
A lot of this sub is simply cynicism. It's too bad, because cynicism usually makes for pretty bad adulting. I really can't think of a positive that comes from cynicism. Caution, skepticism, discipline...yeah, those things can all be positive. But cynicism? I don't get what anyone gets out of that. (Not saying that you're being cynical, and the OP seems more depressed than cynical, but still, we see a lot of that in here, and it seems to be where these comments I'm responding to are rooted.)
I understand what you are saying, but 69, you are just old and managed to get a nice job
Those dont exist anymore. Now is mostly grind or die. I bet even in your current job i could find a boss that would make you question how much you like what you do
I got a job that i loved at some point, but it was simply crushing energy wise. By the time i got good at managing everything without stress, i had my soul already crushed
I even missed old jobs where you could just check in and doing absent minded even if the hours were weird
And in case you are your own boss, it was nice when there were plenty of openings. Now you are competing with every major outlet with infinite cash driving prices down to get you out of the market. Even well established friends are feeling it. Its happening in every single field
You are of course right, cynicism isnt good. But the world is different now. The world that you faced is not here anymore
I'm well aware of all of that, which is why I think it's important to stay vigilant about your own prospects. I'm 56, Gen X. For 20 years, I worked IT jobs I didn't like in order to support my family. At age 48, I burned out and changed careers and started my own business, doing what I love best: playing and teaching guitar. I now make my full-time living doing that, a comfortable one with a higher ceiling than any job I had, and it doesn't feel like work at all. I can imagine doing this well into my 70s, and I've never been happier.
I could have given up; I thought about it. But I didn't, and neither should anyone else. So, I've experienced both the lows and the highs when it comes to work. You can't let the lows get you down, and it doesn't matter what "the world is" - you make your way or you don't, no matter what the world is.
There is a lot of valid criticism of the world today - I'm a lefty and an American and I hate what's happening here right now. But we have to live one way or the other, and this is the world we have to live in. We still have many opportunities in this country. Make the most of it, and don't let external factors become the excuse for why you don't.
Sorry for rambling. All that to say, I agree with the advice to follow your passion. I wish I'd done it 20 years earlier. I had the opportunity and I chickened out. I'd do it all different if I could - don't chicken out!
My point is that there isnt enough jobs teaching guitar no matter how you try to frame it
Or let me put it other way. If everybody passionate about teaching and guitars followed their passion, you personally wouldnt be able to do what you do for a living
Only those seeking and bound to find is correct. If you dont even try you have already failed
But I dont think im being a cynic, i have very talented friends (compared to me at least) that didnt make it without being their fault
95% of people that love teaching guitar are never going to make a living out of it without being their fault. I hate it when people that have made it simply say, keep at it and eventually you will make it. Its simply not true. Being in denial of that is just painful to experience it
On top of it, the next 10 years are going to be rough. We are still in denial phase about ia
That’s a bummer. That actually sounds like a really fun career choice. May I ask, what specifically burned you out about it? Was it your manager? Working conditions and hours? Clients? I ask because I had a career in the IT world that I loved, but what eventually burned me out was terrible managers.
Worst part is seeing them in their private jets getting politicians to cut their taxes yet again, despite having billions they skimmed off the labor of the working class
Each billionaire takes tens of thousands of times more from the working class than a welfare queen
Yep. Being at work is stressful? OK, now add the stress of watching your bank account dwindle to zero while you spend all day sending job applications and not hearing much back, and cutting out most enjoyable things you like to do because they cost money you can't afford to spend at that moment.
You cut out a lot of the most enjoyable things you like to do because you need time to work and sleep. The system is designed so that the average person only gets enough to survive
This is true, when I was last made redundant and paid off people were telling me to enjoy the time.
I found new work within 3 months but I can’t say I was able to enjoy it, you spend your time on applications and interviews, and budgeting. I had 4 days between getting an offer and starting a job, some of that was taken shopping for work clothes so let’s call it 3 days out of three months where I had nothing to do and could chill.
Employment might end but bills and obligations unfortunately keep coming, there isn’t time to enjoy not having a job.
A) Having a job beats the snot out of NOT having a job - especially when you have a wife and children counting on you bringing home a paycheck to put food on the table and keep a roof over your heads. - and yes, I DO speak from experience.
B) There is a third option - work for yourself. One of my sons owns his own business and has a handful of people working FOR him.
C) The FOURTH option (which I am rapidly approaching) is being able to QUIT WORKING altogether. Some do it through FIRE - and others of us just quietly live below our means, save and invest, save and invest... until our return on savings overtakes our job income.
Okay, seriously. Yes, being an adult is harder now than it was in the 70s and 80s. But does it have to be all doom and gloom and depressing? You have way more independence than when you’re a kid.
Also, adulthood looks different for disabled and LGBTQ people, and across different cultures.
Hear that guys? Things are better for LGBT, you should stop hating your job and stop complaining wages aren't enough to make rent like they were in the 90s!!
That’s not what I’m saying. The system is broken. I’m still not financially independent in my late 20s. But we should fight to fix it instead of giving up. And maybe change how we measure whether someone is an adult.
You sure it covers the necessities? You said in this very thread that your wife is the moneymaker. Sounds like you're leeching off her and using "passive income" as an excuse.
I never said she was the money maker. I said she has a pretty good job because she does. Sounds like you're just jealous that you're stuck working for the rest of your life 🤷♂️
I think if jobs are managed correctly and the management doesn’t role consolidate at the expense of the worker….. a job would not be as bad as how it is now with skeleton crew, role consolidation, ect ect
Gottta get comfortable with being uncomfortable magine getting paid to work out, problems solve, socialize, being apart of a team... out in-40 and up to +40 ..
Having shitty neighbors is the worst especially when you bought your house and this shitty neighbor moved in after your nice neighbor had to leave because of financial issue. I'm in that spot now and honestly wouldn't mind if final destination happened to me tomorrow.
Honestly it’s all depends on the job. My current job is horrible toxic management and over 50 hours a week with one day off. Basically zero social life.
Childhood sucks way more. You're not allowed to do anything and have all sorts of silly rules and limits to follow. As an adult I can just do things and nobody can stop me
I've been unemployed for two months. Haven't been unemployed for 14 years. I've not spent more than $10 (webcam for job interviews) aside from my bills and bare minimum groceries. While I absolutely do not miss working, I do miss being able to spend a little here and there for fun. On the flip side, now I know I don't need anything but basic foods and housing, but maybe the retail therapy helps me get through the working life 🤷♂️
Let's not conflate adulthood as such with being an atomized and dumbed down wage, rent, and debt slaves under a brutal, dystopian colonial hellscape abomination of a system.
Don't just be cattle for our ruling parasites/kleptocrats, be human.
I, for one, know I will never be/get comfortable in another W2 job ever again. And I’ve got a decade (-ish, and growing not shrinking as long as I’m unemployed) until retirement.
At this point im just saving as much as I can in retirement accounts and once the inevitable mental breakdown hits ill go live off that in my car until im dead.
it’s what you make of it. my adulthood is like i’m a kid but actually have money now and freedom from my parents .
i’m so fucking happy.
i don’t know who needs to hear this but it does get way better for some people. i used to think as a kid since i wasn’t happy i was totally screwed as an adult. but for me it’s the opposite. i’m finally happy now!
I got freed from a team I hated, work I hated and an environment that I despised. Less than two months later things got so bad they laid off an entire segment the one that freed me). Of course they kept me and yesterday communicated I’d be going back into the trench’s.
If I wasn’t getting married in January and didn’t need the money for my daughter’s education. I’d be out! Like full on no job
While I understand the sentiment of this post and by goodness does having a job feel like this; knowing that having a job is keeping my family one day closer from the street is a hell of a lot better
I think it is crazy how it is a false dichotomy between Unemployed and Job. It SHOULD be "source of income", NOT "job".
How in the hell is it more acceptable to work for free than it is to be "unemployed"?
The 3rd path they need to keep covered up is individual decisions and finding sources of income that work for you.
There is a whole world of possibilities outside of showing up for some company.
Hardest part is finding what skills and ideas you have that are worth investing in and pursuing an income with.
Life is suffering, there's no way around it. Would you rather face the pain of being a productive and contributing member of society, or face the pain of being a dead weight with limited life options?
Having a job is always better than being unemployed because you can do many things with money . What can you do with no money? Imagine sheeps doing backflip.
Honestly speaking, I’d be happy unemployed if my other family members weren’t literally all rich. I’m talking more than one home rich. Then there’s me. I don’t even have a car.
Had this thought late last night. Desperatly holding out for a job that doesn't make me miserable because the last few did just that. It's been awhile though and I fear I'm gonna have to start being a little less picky with where I apply.
You know what is worse than all this? It is having a job gap and being judged by some random HR of some random company for a job you are perfectly qualified for.
This situation is because people stopped having hobbies. Idk why young people stopped having hobbies. Y’all gotta go do something. Get off the phone and go do the thing you’re looking at, jobs pay for hobbies. That’s the whole point.
If you go to work 5 days a week to then sit in your house or apartment for 2 days a week doing nothing, you’re a fuckin idiot and no one can help you. You earned your days, go use them for something fun. Hobbies are almost always free or very low cost and they are for everyone. In shape, out of shape, athletic, nerdy. It doesn’t matter, there is fun shit to do. A job pays for them.
Yea I mean, so, you work. Then you go home. And then 2 days a week, you go do fun stuff. And that’s life. It’s not bad if you’re doing something reasonable on the weekends. If you drink yourself into a hole or smoke yourself into a different solar system that’s fine for a while but your body gets beaten down. So finding a thing that isn’t hurting yourself and is within your means is kinda the whole gig.
I was looking for a job and then I found a job... Heaven knows I'm miserable now
why do i give valuable time to people who don't care if i live or die
because you gotta put food on the table and keep the roof over your head
I dno, I'd much rather kick 'em in the eye.
I’d rather take a 🔫 to the face and exit this world. Wish I had the courage. At this point I’m waiting for a stray bullet to hit me. Might move to a high crime neighborhood.
Not starving and not living under a bridge are strong motivators
How nice a bridge are we talking?
Tall ceiling, very breezy, extremely close to main roads!
Riverfront property?
Because you are probably too weak to find an employer who would care if you live or die or do not think they will give you enough money.
Frankly, Mr Shankly, this position I’ve held: it pays my way and it corrodes my soul.
I read with the melody and vocalist’s voice in my head
In my life...why do I smile...at people who I'd much rather...kick in the eye.
The silver lining is we can eat! And we can cry in the office bathroom instead of just our bathroom
Recently went through that: the couple of weeks passed between “you’re hired” and when I actually begun had been amazing.
Never felt so free in 45 years.
what job is it
Look up The Smiths - Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now
Ive done 9-to-5 and I've done unemployed.
I suggest not being born.
Have you done jobs that aren’t 9-5? That’s what I like.
I have a job where I’m sometimes off the weekend, but sometimes off Wednesday and Thursday
Sometimes I work 8-5, sometimes I work 10-7, sometimes I work 12-9.
Variety is the spice of life, and I like it like that.
Working 8-5 Monday through Friday for 30 years sounds SO monotonous
7-3 is the best imo, you leave work and there’s still a day left instead of just an evening, but yeah I agree with the variety. A lack of variety is how we enter autopilot and years pass by without us realising
Have you tried getting born into money?
If only that were an option.
Unfortunately, that’s not an option. It’s not like we chose this.
although I saw a psychologist for a while and she said we did choose it, and we also chose our parents. I guess it’s possible, but I don’t remember choosing it or them.
Anything is possible
That’s an enlightened therapist! I’m impressed. 🙏
She cured me!!
Yeah but being stressed with a job and an income is way better than being stressed without a job
Yes, at least with a job you've got a plan.
Same plan, different timeline
No, not at all.
And options! There's barely any job that doesn't let you either learn something valuable - as difficult as it might be - or to get higher up.
I've had one, sadly, so I can tell you firsthand: dead end jobs do still exist.
Some people take planned sabbaticals from work to go travelling with intention or to focus on personal goals/projects. I know not everyone is in a position to afford this any time they want, but it's definitely a thing among those who worked and saved for it. A job isn't someone's entire existence.
70% of Americans cant afford to save for emergencies let alone vacations
Not if your body hurts in some way. Then on top of being stressed with a job, you get a whole lotta pain
But how do I not be stressed?
The key is to don’t lose sight of having a life while making a living!
Sorry, we're gonna need you to come in on your 'having a life' day. Also remember you're on call, so don't be gone at any time because if you can't come in when we call you're fired. Good luck paying for your rent to just survive.
Also remember “we are a family”!!!!!
Lots of jobs out there are not like this.
lol well thats no problem because i only work 3 12’s with 4 days off so coming in on my day off is overtime which still leaves me with 3 days off ..as far as on call goes yeah im gonna have to say “kiss me ass” every time u call, respectfully!
Same situation lol I work 4 12’s, 4 days off. Coming in on any day I’m not scheduled is big overtime.
Even when I’m not on call, I still get called…
It’s actually poverty sucks.
You are jobless and work a job you hate, there's a such thing as a happy medium. I don't like going to work as much as anyone else but I've worked a lot of shitty jobs in my life to understand the good ones and my tech job in the office may be boring some days but it beats the back breaking warehouse work I used to do.
Yeah, I've had a lot of shitty jobs that reminds me to be thankful for mine. It's not the best but at least I can afford to do things. When I was jobless everything was limited.
How were you persistent while finding the tech job?? I'm in a shitty job as well.
Was tired of being poor, went to school for it and just stuck with the process. I didn't get a job until a year after I graduated but I never gave up. You can turn your entire life around if you really want to, but the key is you have to want it enough and not be content with where you are. There's no magical advice to give, hard work truly pays off.
Thanks for the reply. Ik this a stupid question but how to get that hunger? Can u tell that? Let's say I don't feel like learning sumthing but I have to how do I attack??
There's no such thing as "I don't feel like doing it", that's not a motivation problem, it's a discipline one. I don't want to go to the gym every day, but if I don't eventually my body will look like shit, if I don't go to work I won't get paid, will get fired and might lose my apartment. You have to weigh the pros and cons of your decisions, see the light at the end of the tunnel and think about the short and long term effects of your choices daily. If the cons don't outweigh the pros it will be hard to change your mindset.
As I said bro, there's no universal advice on this subject, everyone has their own journey. If you want it bad you'll find a way, even if you have to sacrifice your current lifestyle for the long term gains. Save every dime and invest your money wisely into your future. Plenty of people changed their life from poverty but you have to trust your gut and the process.
It took me more than 7 years after college to get the right amount of motivation. I worked in a call center for 3 years. That alone will give a lot of people enough motivation to get an education.
I’ve cleaned dry shit from reservoirs in a wastewater treatment plant, cleaned the inside of a furnace at an incineration plant, and assisted in inspecting sewers, where I stood covered in shit up to my knees as it was released from an apartment building. I saw toilet paper, shit, and all kinds of things flow by me. I’ve worked as a waiter, which is honestly worse than all the other things combined.
Once I started at university, I had all the motivation I needed. I never got good grades in school, and it was the hardest thing I’ve ever done. I knew I had to get through it, I couldn’t fail. When I finished my master’s in computer science, I was so stressed that I had lost half my vocabulary. I couldn’t find the words when I needed them. I was cooked. I got an A+ on my master’s thesis, landed a job before finishing my master’s, and a salary higher than I ever imagined.
Thanks for sharing your story. You say masters is one way to find reasoning in life?
Follow your passion and try to find a related job on that area.
This is the answer. Important note...not your hobby...but you worded it correctly: a related job.
If you're passionate about minute details (like you enjoy painting and creating warhammer 40k miniatures), you probably like jobs that require attention to detail where you aren't rushed, as long as you get it done correctly.
As one example. But find the kind of actions you enjoy, and get a job doing something where you enjoy the basic actions of the job.
Just don't turn your hobby into a job unless you're REALLY passionate about it.
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On the one hand, work doing what you love and you'll never work a day in your life.
On the other hand, get a job doing work you love and you will eventually grow to hate it until it's your least favorite thing in the world.
I don't know where this "saying" comes from, but it's not some universal truth. I do what I love, have done it for 40 years, and love it as much today as I did back then. I know many other people in my field who feel the same.
I think it's like never making your alarm a song that you love, cause eventually you just associate it with being forced awake every morning.
Wel...lol, I've got news for you there, too... ;) Seriously, I think this just goes to show, it really depends on how you approach these things. Why wouldn't I want to wake up to my favorite song every day? And, since I love what I do, I don't hate my alarm or waking up.
A lot of this sub is simply cynicism. It's too bad, because cynicism usually makes for pretty bad adulting. I really can't think of a positive that comes from cynicism. Caution, skepticism, discipline...yeah, those things can all be positive. But cynicism? I don't get what anyone gets out of that. (Not saying that you're being cynical, and the OP seems more depressed than cynical, but still, we see a lot of that in here, and it seems to be where these comments I'm responding to are rooted.)
I understand what you are saying, but 69, you are just old and managed to get a nice job
Those dont exist anymore. Now is mostly grind or die. I bet even in your current job i could find a boss that would make you question how much you like what you do
I got a job that i loved at some point, but it was simply crushing energy wise. By the time i got good at managing everything without stress, i had my soul already crushed
I even missed old jobs where you could just check in and doing absent minded even if the hours were weird
And in case you are your own boss, it was nice when there were plenty of openings. Now you are competing with every major outlet with infinite cash driving prices down to get you out of the market. Even well established friends are feeling it. Its happening in every single field
You are of course right, cynicism isnt good. But the world is different now. The world that you faced is not here anymore
I'm well aware of all of that, which is why I think it's important to stay vigilant about your own prospects. I'm 56, Gen X. For 20 years, I worked IT jobs I didn't like in order to support my family. At age 48, I burned out and changed careers and started my own business, doing what I love best: playing and teaching guitar. I now make my full-time living doing that, a comfortable one with a higher ceiling than any job I had, and it doesn't feel like work at all. I can imagine doing this well into my 70s, and I've never been happier.
I could have given up; I thought about it. But I didn't, and neither should anyone else. So, I've experienced both the lows and the highs when it comes to work. You can't let the lows get you down, and it doesn't matter what "the world is" - you make your way or you don't, no matter what the world is.
There is a lot of valid criticism of the world today - I'm a lefty and an American and I hate what's happening here right now. But we have to live one way or the other, and this is the world we have to live in. We still have many opportunities in this country. Make the most of it, and don't let external factors become the excuse for why you don't.
Sorry for rambling. All that to say, I agree with the advice to follow your passion. I wish I'd done it 20 years earlier. I had the opportunity and I chickened out. I'd do it all different if I could - don't chicken out!
Yeah, keep fighting until the death
My point is that there isnt enough jobs teaching guitar no matter how you try to frame it
Or let me put it other way. If everybody passionate about teaching and guitars followed their passion, you personally wouldnt be able to do what you do for a living
Only those seeking and bound to find is correct. If you dont even try you have already failed
But I dont think im being a cynic, i have very talented friends (compared to me at least) that didnt make it without being their fault
95% of people that love teaching guitar are never going to make a living out of it without being their fault. I hate it when people that have made it simply say, keep at it and eventually you will make it. Its simply not true. Being in denial of that is just painful to experience it
On top of it, the next 10 years are going to be rough. We are still in denial phase about ia
This. It's a mindset thing
I tried that, I was doing a course in outdoor education. I just ended up hating my hobby.
That’s a bummer. That actually sounds like a really fun career choice. May I ask, what specifically burned you out about it? Was it your manager? Working conditions and hours? Clients? I ask because I had a career in the IT world that I loved, but what eventually burned me out was terrible managers.
The clients. Pay was shit too. I didn't enjoy hiking and camping with randoms, turns out I do it to get away from people haha
Makes sense. People drain the help out of me sometimes too. I’d target camp with friends and family only. Or solo.
im not passionate about anything.
and my interests have no jobs that pay living wages.
now what?
Unemployment kinda rules, it's the not having money part that sucks
Nah, I’m unemployed and loving it!
Give it time...
its only bad when you have no money XD
Hey ma where’s the meatloaf??
Gotta be able to afford life.
It's pretty easy to afford life while unemployed in most European countries.
So you just happily leech off the working class?
Leeches on the working class suck
Worst part is seeing them in their private jets getting politicians to cut their taxes yet again, despite having billions they skimmed off the labor of the working class
Each billionaire takes tens of thousands of times more from the working class than a welfare queen
The rich in Europe actually pay taxes which pay for the social programs.
Why are those twins not even talking to each other?! They’re on the same bus!
deep
Yes, meaninglessness and constant work are both miserable, that's why we try to get the best trade-off with careers that are meaningful to us.
I'm 17, i don't have dream job , i just want to live my life without being a slave/servant.=[
That’s not ‘adulthood’ - that’s your mind.
Exactly, being unemployed is way worse. It’s harder to find a job when you don’t have one.
Yep. Being at work is stressful? OK, now add the stress of watching your bank account dwindle to zero while you spend all day sending job applications and not hearing much back, and cutting out most enjoyable things you like to do because they cost money you can't afford to spend at that moment.
Dealing with work is much better than that.
You cut out a lot of the most enjoyable things you like to do because you need time to work and sleep. The system is designed so that the average person only gets enough to survive
This is true, when I was last made redundant and paid off people were telling me to enjoy the time.
I found new work within 3 months but I can’t say I was able to enjoy it, you spend your time on applications and interviews, and budgeting. I had 4 days between getting an offer and starting a job, some of that was taken shopping for work clothes so let’s call it 3 days out of three months where I had nothing to do and could chill.
Employment might end but bills and obligations unfortunately keep coming, there isn’t time to enjoy not having a job.
Idk, I've been unemployed since February and love it.
How do you survive? You or your folks/partner must be rich.
Not rich parents. Wife has a good job and I have a passive income.
Is your wife loving your unemployment too?
She sure is! I drive her to work, which she enjoys.
💯💯💯
I am in the wonderful purgatory known as “temporarily laid off”, I guess!
FTFY
Join the communist revolution
Being neurodivergent on top of it just makes everything harder
I've had bad jobs, mediocre jobs, and good jobs.
Most jobs are better than being unemployed, in my experience. Poverty sucks in a variety of ways.
A) Having a job beats the snot out of NOT having a job - especially when you have a wife and children counting on you bringing home a paycheck to put food on the table and keep a roof over your heads. - and yes, I DO speak from experience.
B) There is a third option - work for yourself. One of my sons owns his own business and has a handful of people working FOR him.
C) The FOURTH option (which I am rapidly approaching) is being able to QUIT WORKING altogether. Some do it through FIRE - and others of us just quietly live below our means, save and invest, save and invest... until our return on savings overtakes our job income.
This bus doesn’t have any good stops either way
Okay, seriously. Yes, being an adult is harder now than it was in the 70s and 80s. But does it have to be all doom and gloom and depressing? You have way more independence than when you’re a kid.
Also, adulthood looks different for disabled and LGBTQ people, and across different cultures.
If you need help, get therapy.
Well, therapy can be pretty unaffordable in many places around the world…
Hear that guys? Things are better for LGBT, you should stop hating your job and stop complaining wages aren't enough to make rent like they were in the 90s!!
That’s not what I’m saying. The system is broken. I’m still not financially independent in my late 20s. But we should fight to fix it instead of giving up. And maybe change how we measure whether someone is an adult.
Nah man it's pretty doom and gloom, I'm 25 and I can't afford shit
Only worse thing than employment is unemployment
Gosh this sub is so depressive. You people are really like this?
Having a job is awesome! You get to meet a lot of people, you get to work on cool projects, you get to say "I do this!". And, you get money!
Not having a job is awesome! You have time for your hobbies, side projects, try bunch of different stuff or just kick back and chill.
I'm unemployed and it's actually pretty awesome.
If you have deep savings and a plan it's awesome, if you don't it's a ticking time bomb
No deep savings, but I don't technically ever have to work again if I don't want to. My life would be pretty bare minimum, but I could get by.
You can't survive that way.
YOU can't, maybe.
Nobody can unless they are leeching off of someone else. How do you afford things?
I'm not leeching off anyone. I afford things with money.
And you make that money how?
I have a passive income source. It doesn't make me rich, but it covers the necessities.
You sure it covers the necessities? You said in this very thread that your wife is the moneymaker. Sounds like you're leeching off her and using "passive income" as an excuse.
I never said she was the money maker. I said she has a pretty good job because she does. Sounds like you're just jealous that you're stuck working for the rest of your life 🤷♂️
Enjoy having your wife leave for someone who can contribute to their life.
Nah fr
I think if jobs are managed correctly and the management doesn’t role consolidate at the expense of the worker….. a job would not be as bad as how it is now with skeleton crew, role consolidation, ect ect
Gottta get comfortable with being uncomfortable magine getting paid to work out, problems solve, socialize, being apart of a team... out in-40 and up to +40 ..
This picture looks like the story of my life, until I went homeless and turned Struggles and Failures into success.
Having a job doesn’t suck, it is when you meet toxic coworkers…🤕
Kind of fucked either way.
Pick your fighter: stress with bills or stress with bosses
The sad reality
We should all be thankful for what we have, but boy there are definitely days like this. Life is no joke….
can someone add a middle row with being employed but on vacation at home 😭
Being alive 😂
No difference
Having shitty neighbors is the worst especially when you bought your house and this shitty neighbor moved in after your nice neighbor had to leave because of financial issue. I'm in that spot now and honestly wouldn't mind if final destination happened to me tomorrow.
Honestly it’s all depends on the job. My current job is horrible toxic management and over 50 hours a week with one day off. Basically zero social life.
The only bad thing about being unemployed is the low income (or no income). Apart from that, life isn't too bad.
Right!
No, it doesn't in itself. It's just your life that sucks.
Childhood sucks way more. You're not allowed to do anything and have all sorts of silly rules and limits to follow. As an adult I can just do things and nobody can stop me
Only thing worse than working is looking for work.
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Does your company love you?
your company is like a bratty teenager who will never love you and take advantage of you and bleed the live out of you .
however if you love your kid it’s bearable. same with a job
TRUE & TRUER.
Sadness all around .
I've been rocking unemployment for seven months now. I've got so much gaming done. Sadly it's coming to an end soon!
That sweet spot when youve found a job after being unemployed but still have 2-3 weeks of guilt free relaxation before you start.
I've been unemployed for two months. Haven't been unemployed for 14 years. I've not spent more than $10 (webcam for job interviews) aside from my bills and bare minimum groceries. While I absolutely do not miss working, I do miss being able to spend a little here and there for fun. On the flip side, now I know I don't need anything but basic foods and housing, but maybe the retail therapy helps me get through the working life 🤷♂️
My house mate would disagree, he gets paid more from pip and UC than if he got a job and is loving it
Lucky bastard
Let's not conflate adulthood as such with being an atomized and dumbed down wage, rent, and debt slaves under a brutal, dystopian colonial hellscape abomination of a system.
Don't just be cattle for our ruling parasites/kleptocrats, be human.
I confirm, but being unemployed sucks more
Being a trust fund baby and travelling the world ☺️
Retirement sucks as well.
Incorrect… it’s greed that makes adulting suck.
I, for one, know I will never be/get comfortable in another W2 job ever again. And I’ve got a decade (-ish, and growing not shrinking as long as I’m unemployed) until retirement.
At this point im just saving as much as I can in retirement accounts and once the inevitable mental breakdown hits ill go live off that in my car until im dead.
it’s what you make of it. my adulthood is like i’m a kid but actually have money now and freedom from my parents .
i’m so fucking happy.
i don’t know who needs to hear this but it does get way better for some people. i used to think as a kid since i wasn’t happy i was totally screwed as an adult. but for me it’s the opposite. i’m finally happy now!
I got freed from a team I hated, work I hated and an environment that I despised. Less than two months later things got so bad they laid off an entire segment the one that freed me). Of course they kept me and yesterday communicated I’d be going back into the trench’s.
If I wasn’t getting married in January and didn’t need the money for my daughter’s education. I’d be out! Like full on no job
While I understand the sentiment of this post and by goodness does having a job feel like this; knowing that having a job is keeping my family one day closer from the street is a hell of a lot better
image needs more: A golden, heavenly light from the clouds, beaming down on the word Drugs
i was excited having a job but now lmaooo im excited to be unemployed
Damned if you do damned if you don’t
I think it is crazy how it is a false dichotomy between Unemployed and Job. It SHOULD be "source of income", NOT "job".
How in the hell is it more acceptable to work for free than it is to be "unemployed"?
The 3rd path they need to keep covered up is individual decisions and finding sources of income that work for you.
There is a whole world of possibilities outside of showing up for some company.
Hardest part is finding what skills and ideas you have that are worth investing in and pursuing an income with.
Maybe a big TT goth gf will save us...
I'd rather be miserable and not hungry...so I'll take employed any day. I like food too much.
Having iman: 🌼🌷💐🌞
I love my job. I get paid a good salary (not in the US). I'm a teacher. It's great and I couldn't imagine working another job.
Boy, this is so true. Forced myself to be miserable for 15 years because I had a family to support. Retirement meant so much more though.
Lmao
Exactly. What you wanna do is be the guy driving the bus.
Life is suffering, there's no way around it. Would you rather face the pain of being a productive and contributing member of society, or face the pain of being a dead weight with limited life options?
I’d rather have a job.
Having a job is always better than being unemployed because you can do many things with money . What can you do with no money? Imagine sheeps doing backflip.
The tunnel of adulthood.
Yes surely it does , i mean when you know that being a adult is not even close to what we expected as a chlid
a relevant quote
I mean i'm a 17yo (almost 18) high school senior without a job and it's not depressing my mom said i cant work until im a college graduate
Honestly speaking, I’d be happy unemployed if my other family members weren’t literally all rich. I’m talking more than one home rich. Then there’s me. I don’t even have a car.
Had this thought late last night. Desperatly holding out for a job that doesn't make me miserable because the last few did just that. It's been awhile though and I fear I'm gonna have to start being a little less picky with where I apply.
I was talking to a friend who was recently laid-off, he said, "I'm terrified of not finding another job. I'm equally terrified of getting a new one."
I work for myself.
I get an average salary and spend only a few hours a day working, often taking weeks off at a time doing minimal work.
Start a business folks. Think of something you like to do and go do it for yourself instead of another guy for a lesser wage.
There was an attempt…. to convince us this isn’t a Hell Dimension and at the same time force everyone into systems that optimize suffering
Literally everything about life sucks
I'd rather have a job.
11 months unemployed. Had its ups and downs. Landed a great job, just started last week. I’m. So. Tired.
Ironic image because I'm a bus driver.
Nah, job good.
Not having a job is a whole other level of stress. Especially when you have kids
The pre and post disappointment is so real. It’s like different ice cream shop same flavor.
You know what is worse than all this? It is having a job gap and being judged by some random HR of some random company for a job you are perfectly qualified for.
The only thing worse than having a job...is looking for one
Being an adult is great, do what you want, when you want. Just gotta be prepared for what NEEDS to be done.
That’s where self employed works out better.
Yup, being forced to sell your labor to survive sucks. I feel like someone wrote about this... K something about 150 years ago
Can I be newly 18 in peace… man..
skill issue
This situation is because people stopped having hobbies. Idk why young people stopped having hobbies. Y’all gotta go do something. Get off the phone and go do the thing you’re looking at, jobs pay for hobbies. That’s the whole point.
If you go to work 5 days a week to then sit in your house or apartment for 2 days a week doing nothing, you’re a fuckin idiot and no one can help you. You earned your days, go use them for something fun. Hobbies are almost always free or very low cost and they are for everyone. In shape, out of shape, athletic, nerdy. It doesn’t matter, there is fun shit to do. A job pays for them.
Just like Everything Else In America, my hobby costs MONEY. And where does that come from? Working.
Yea I mean, so, you work. Then you go home. And then 2 days a week, you go do fun stuff. And that’s life. It’s not bad if you’re doing something reasonable on the weekends. If you drink yourself into a hole or smoke yourself into a different solar system that’s fine for a while but your body gets beaten down. So finding a thing that isn’t hurting yourself and is within your means is kinda the whole gig.
It’s all about mindset. Life is what you make of it