Wait do you folks actually think maduro is good for Venezuela? The Venezuelan people are elated he has been removed. The people of one of the richest countries in South America has suffered greatly under his communist dictatorship.
Maduro is gone, but there will be no regime change. The regime will continue on, but now as a sock puppet of the United States. Yay. We did it gang, we freed Venezuela!
Yeah, I mean I have mixed feelings about him being taken. Like yeah, he's a bad guy no doubt, but you also can't just kidnap people. That's a precedence we cannot afford to set. The Epstein files on the other hand... Those must be WILD given what MAGA has been up to this week
Plenty of places deserve some degree of sanctioning for human rights abuses. The irony is that in some of them, we (the USA) helped give rise to the governments doing the human rights abuses. Lol
This flyer, and the messaging, has too many disjointed and competing messages. Free maduro????? Please, listen to the others who have commented about this. A single message denouncing ICE in light of recent events would likely get you a larger turnout. Folks don't want to cosign freeing a fucking dictator.
I’m on your side and with love and care, I say this: “free maduro” is exceptionally off-mark in this moment. You look foolish, and you make us look foolish. Please stop.
Looks like there's a lot of folks on this sub that think that it's ok to be a violent warmongering nation abroad but not ok to be a violent warmongering police state at home.
Maybe there's a relationship to how we treat other nations and how we treat our own residents.
No, there’s a lot of folks who think the Pittsburgh DSA has awful message discipline and is shooting themselves in the foot and making the left look bad with this.
Literally no one here thinks that. You can oppose war and not want the release of an evil man. This is an exhausting argument and the same reason people didn't take the pro Palestine protests seriously
Why the fuck does this say Free Maduro. Might as well be a poster that says "Fuck ICE and Bless Putin". Seriously, whoever is in charge of the messaging for this is either an idiot or works for MAGA, because they are doing a great job at destroying a movement and stopping people from showing up.
Extremely liberal here. Drop the free Maduro stuff protest the act of kidnapping politicians in other countries while we have people living In tents in our cities.
"Hands off Venezuela" not free Maduro. US has no reason to be there and had no right to what was done. Turn him over to international authority if need be, but nah, not here to "free" him.
Really? Free Maduro is a priority right now? Can we focus for a second on the fact that we are officially in a police state that is shooting prowl dead in the street:
Maduro is the legal president of his country, whether or not you agree with his ruling tactics or whatever. Venezuela is only in its current position due to American intervention. It is absolutely tyrannical to just kidnap a foreign leader. I cannot believe people are focused on the minute details of Maduro’s leadership instead of agreeing we should never have gotten to the point we are at. Not to mention the demonization of Venezuelans increases the more this rhetoric against Maduro increases. It’s about sovereignty.
Hands off Venezuela. Fuck ICE. Free the global south.
Can we just stick to one? Ice is so much better. People are iffy on Venezuela even Democrats. Just fuck Ice is so much better
Maybe stick to "oxygen is helpful for the human body" if you want to maximize turnout
Exactly. Protesting one cause at a time is so much easier for demands to be met. Otherwise its a whole clusterfuck. Especially with the Maduro part.
Fr.
On Venezuela: his removal from power is good, we had no right to do it. I dont want him free.
It needs one big, concise, popular message.
We don’t have to connect Ice to these other things. It is important enough by itself.
Free maduro? You've lost the plot
I can't agree strongly enough. Not only did they lose the plot, they always will lose the respect of reasonable people who might otherwise support us.
Wait do you folks actually think maduro is good for Venezuela? The Venezuelan people are elated he has been removed. The people of one of the richest countries in South America has suffered greatly under his communist dictatorship.
Edit: added people of.
Maduro is gone, but there will be no regime change. The regime will continue on, but now as a sock puppet of the United States. Yay. We did it gang, we freed Venezuela!
You do realize you replied to someone who thinks we shouldnt free him right?
Liberals really revealing just how much they actually support the current regime.
Get fucking rid of “Free Maduro,” or replace it with “Release the Epstein Files”.
EDIT: or leave Venezuela off altogether. Senate just passed a resolution today. There’s progress there. It’s time to pivot.
Yeah, I mean I have mixed feelings about him being taken. Like yeah, he's a bad guy no doubt, but you also can't just kidnap people. That's a precedence we cannot afford to set. The Epstein files on the other hand... Those must be WILD given what MAGA has been up to this week
Who the fuck wants to free Maduro? That's like adding "PUT THE TOOTHPASTE BACK IN THE TUBE"
Free Maduro is so tone deaf it actively hurts the cause, please remove that and issue an apology.
I'm in agreement with most of the flyer but not the "free nicolas maduro" part.
I’m no fan of “End all sanctions” either. Russia should def still be sanctioned
Yeah, I didn't consider the meaning of all until you pointed out it. Agree about Russia, totally.
Also, BDS wants a word….
Yeah literally lmao are the DSA not fans of sanctioning Israel anymore or????
Plenty of places deserve some degree of sanctioning for human rights abuses. The irony is that in some of them, we (the USA) helped give rise to the governments doing the human rights abuses. Lol
Free Maduro should be replaced with "No oil wars". You still have time before Saturday to do this.
I thought we all agreed to no more oil wars already... Oh wait then the oil oligarchs got put in power
This flyer, and the messaging, has too many disjointed and competing messages. Free maduro????? Please, listen to the others who have commented about this. A single message denouncing ICE in light of recent events would likely get you a larger turnout. Folks don't want to cosign freeing a fucking dictator.
I’m on your side and with love and care, I say this: “free maduro” is exceptionally off-mark in this moment. You look foolish, and you make us look foolish. Please stop.
Free Maduro my ass. Get outa here with that shit.
Literally going to give Republicans a great flyer to show how much Democrats have lost the plot.
Looks like there's a lot of folks on this sub that think that it's ok to be a violent warmongering nation abroad but not ok to be a violent warmongering police state at home.
Maybe there's a relationship to how we treat other nations and how we treat our own residents.
No, there’s a lot of folks who think the Pittsburgh DSA has awful message discipline and is shooting themselves in the foot and making the left look bad with this.
Literally no one here thinks that. You can oppose war and not want the release of an evil man. This is an exhausting argument and the same reason people didn't take the pro Palestine protests seriously
Why the fuck does this say Free Maduro. Might as well be a poster that says "Fuck ICE and Bless Putin". Seriously, whoever is in charge of the messaging for this is either an idiot or works for MAGA, because they are doing a great job at destroying a movement and stopping people from showing up.
Extremely liberal here. Drop the free Maduro stuff protest the act of kidnapping politicians in other countries while we have people living In tents in our cities.
Just keep to to Abolish ICE. One message is important.
lol this can’t be real
AT THE DSA MEETING:
[temples fingers] OK, so what can we add to this poster to ensure that no Latinx people want to attend?
Probably just putting latinx on the poster would have been enough
If you’re going to protest at least do some research on the topics you’re supposed to be against. This doesn’t surprise me at all
"Hands off Venezuela" not free Maduro. US has no reason to be there and had no right to what was done. Turn him over to international authority if need be, but nah, not here to "free" him.
Really? Free Maduro is a priority right now? Can we focus for a second on the fact that we are officially in a police state that is shooting prowl dead in the street:
Stick with “abolish ICE.” Putting “free Maduro” on there is literally handing easy straw man headlines to Fox News on a platter
Maduro is the legal president of his country, whether or not you agree with his ruling tactics or whatever. Venezuela is only in its current position due to American intervention. It is absolutely tyrannical to just kidnap a foreign leader. I cannot believe people are focused on the minute details of Maduro’s leadership instead of agreeing we should never have gotten to the point we are at. Not to mention the demonization of Venezuelans increases the more this rhetoric against Maduro increases. It’s about sovereignty.
Hands off Venezuela. Fuck ICE. Free the global south.
What the fuck is this trash? Absolutely no one should want Maduro free.
This poster was created by a Trumpanzee. “Free Maduro” sounds like something a plant would say.
Nope apparently DSA is really just that stupid. They are the leftists that the right meme.
🤣🤣🤣 so just another no Trump rally
People get a life
Will you be bringing your game boy?
Always have that thang on me