We must push a pressure campaign to push reporters to ask WHEN the DOJ will seek a grand jury indictment of Bill Clinton.
2 reasons. First, because he looks guilty as hell and if he did and there’s evidence, he belongs in prison.
Second, an indictment will force the DOJ’s hand and will eventually expose Donald.
They won’t do it because it’ll expose trump, but it’ll increase the pressure and MAGA would hop on board. This would help the midterms too.
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Clinton asked for everything to be released. I believe it was earlier today 🤷♀️
He didn't ask, he demanded. Or I should say, one of his reps put out a statement demanding all files related to Clinton be released. They didn't say all files, or trump etc. Only files related to Clinton. This is really interesting, because either there is reason to be worried and asking for the files to make sure there isn't something incriminating, or he, while being who he is, is actually totally innocent of criminal wrongdoing and he wants to prove that while drawing focus onto the files.
I have to believe the latter. If he is guilty of partaking in Epstein's services I doubt he would demand the files on him he released just to confirm those files exist.
They already released a photo of him with Michael Jackson and Diana Ross’s daughter (with redacted face) to imply that Clinton hanging out with Minors… it was a photo from a fundraiser. They are rewriting the files to implicate prominent Dems.
This was expected and as OP said if they he is dirty then fuck him too. But as long as he isn't formally charged I doubt just some bad press is going to seriously affect the Clinton's. They are wealthy enough to insulate themselves until this blows over.
If he thinks it'll take Trump down why not? We've know he was an Epstein associate for ages it's not like he's ever going to see punishment for it. These guys know they're getting away with it, might as well try to strike blows against each other.
Or maybe he trusts they never will. Like dt did. Dt did the same for years tbh.
Clinton doesn’t have any power to suppress the records, though. The DOJ is doing Trump’s bidding, not his.
Interestingly, it does put Trump in a weird spot cause on one hand it’s something base would be all for, but on the other hand it could very well drag Trump into the pit with Clinton so it’s something he’d want to avoid if possible.
I’m unaware of any real, verifiable allegations made against Clinton. I’m not a big fan, but I think it’s obvious all this focus on Clinton is an exercise in misdirection.
The ask is for all records relating to Trump and Clinton. The letter is available.
If Bill Clinton gets indicted, he's gonna sing like Celine Dionne!
Clinton was a hound dog but he wasn't/isn't a pedophile. I think he wants the files released because he wants to clear his name after all this time.
And if he is a pedophile, he goes under the bus too.
I really wish past presidents would come out and be more vocal. Hearing Clinton actually say, "You know I've got a past, but I'd really like every single picture and mention related to me to be released to the public immediately. I bet Trump hasn't got the balls to release anything else, though. Look at his tiny, bruised hands. He's so dementia-addled he probably can't even remember that he's gonna drain the swamp and take me and Hillary down."
A good goading would be fun. If Clinton is a pedophile, I hope more info gets released and he's convicted. If he isn't, it'll be fun to watch the admin squirm to figure out how to make Clinton look more guilty with weak to no evidence.
He’s a sex pest and probably a rapist but he’s not a pedophile - or at least he didn’t rape kids with Epstein.
And if he did, fuck him too. We’re not a cult.
If Bill Clinton really is bubba then we'd find out about the time Drumpf played the bubba skin flute
A man only demands all his records to be released with 100% transparency when it will either exonerate him or at this point he knows there's no getting away and taking everyone else involved is the goal
What if there's another scandal revealed over Bill Clinton getting a BJ?
Good for him I guess.
Getting a BJ by Trump
Great. Was the provider a minor? Then it was rape. We go after him too.
He likely doesn't have standing to ask for anything unrelated to himself so asking for everything would actually reduce the chance anything happened at all.
So not necessarily nefarious at all.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/20/bill-clinton-white-house-epstein-files
The Guardian said so too.
Really wish The Guardian would stop referring to Epstine as a “disgraced financier” or “the financier” and call him what he is - a child rapist and alleged sex ring trafficker.
But Clinton is right, the current DOJ will never release everything related to him when Trump is sitting next to him during every alleged act. If Clinton is involved, take him tf down! If trump goes down with him, that’s fine too. If evidence proves it, take every last one of them down regardless of political party or “financier” status.
He wasn’t even really a financier, he was a con man who was extremely good at manipulating people.
Why, doesn't THAT sound familiar huh? Feels like I've heard this one quite a lot in recent years but for some reason I can't quite seem to put my finger on where I've heard it. Oh well, surely there can't be THAT many billionaires who made their fortune off of being a lying piece of shit, right?
https://preview.redd.it/d5w1vmlnfu8g1.jpeg?width=1070&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=328eb1bf7ac18212d06cc9268e3e1fe8c34868ee
Yep
He could just admit to raping children of course, that would be the most direct way to atone for his sins. A.k.a. go to jail, I’m not a religious guy.
Edit- maybe he didn’t do kids. He looks like an early-mid 20’s kind of guy. That would negate jail as I’m sure he could prove consensuality. Wouldn’t be the first time.
If you can find or name a single victim that has ever accused BC of anything untoward or illegal or predatory while in the company of epstein, let's see it.
There's no "maybe".
BC was never at epstein island and he's never raped or harmed children, unlike Donald trump, who's accused by more than 30 women of horrific sex crimes across decades.
And if there is, fuck him, he’s guilty too. I’m a member of a political party, not a cult.
Get everyone under oath. Zero reason to listen to a republican otherwise
Oaths clearly don’t matter to them anymore.
They lie under oath every time they testify to Congress.
No doubt. Hegseth Bondi , Patel have lied or avoided answering every question in oversight hearings. Watching them was absolutely infuriating.
We need a Congressional bailiff whose sole job is to just like flick people in the forehead or whack their knuckles with a ruler when they're dodging direct questions.
I volunteer for the position
Congress needs an elected bitch slapper. If you keep on answering questions like a little bitch, you get slapped and it's all perfectly legal and constitutional. Don't like that question, Noem? Try speaking honestly or else you'll get you-slapped. Patel worried he'll end up with both eyes wonky? Tell. the. truth!
Under oath doesn't mean shit to these scumbags. We need Zone of Truth.
Grand juries don’t indict without credible, tangible, evidence. Facts. Phone records, money trail, flight logs, witness statements. “Looking guilty” isn’t enough. Having sketchy friends isn’t enough.
OK, you’re talking about Clinton, but Trump?
Witness statements like Tiffany Doe’s testimony under oath before the House Oversight Committee?
Maybe two people under oath, one self-incriminating as an accessory to rape of a minor, should at least warrant an investigation, the results of which should be in the DOJ’s Epstein files… unfortunately it seems that an accessory after the fact has applied a lot of black boxes.
"A grand jury will indict a ham sandwich"
Thats why they couldn't get the guy who threw that sandwich at the NG, it was a SUB sandwich.
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But not Leticia James lol
PLEASE explain why?? Bill Clinton is a red herring and sadly you and others are falling for it. Every victim that has spoken about this said they never saw Bill Clinton act inappropriately with them. I believe many said they never even saw him on the island.
Trump's own chief of staff said Bill Clinton isn't in those files doing anything inappropriate. All that being said if there is any valid claim or evidence in those files that he sexually assaulted anyone - he should be charged AND given his day in court but these assumptions of guilt against Clinton are pure bullshit and is what Trump, his followers and the many powerful men AND women who were connected to this want us to focus on.
Because discovery will get the orange one.
Why? OP is probably Stephen Miller or working for him.
the reason we need to push for indictment is to prove he isnt involved? even clinton himself is calling for the release of everything unredacted... not only that but it will show that almost everything they release on clinton was added to the epstein filed without being related to epstein at all, it will prove they fabricated evidence and fraud with political motivation.
If the left is asking in every forum for indictments it will push the right to question qhy the hell isnt he in handcuffs
There is no evidence that Bill is guilty of raping children. I doubt Trump can say the same thing. Unfortunately, Trump’s entire administration is hiding and redacting the evidence. Let’s go after Pam Bondi instead. She doesn’t have immunity from prosecution like Trump has (thanks to our biased Supreme Court).
You doubt?
Tiffany Doe’s testimony under oath before the House Oversight Committee.
I wonder what happened to her. If anyone knows where she is. Not that I want her exposed but this was 10 years ago and if she can say this again…
He's had his spokesperson demand the release of all files and picture that reference him, I believe that happened today. Doesn't sound like a guilty man to me, I know he's a sex pest but he could've not acknowledged anything and not pulled a Streisand
This is why DOJ won’t charge Clinton. He’ll sing like a canary if he knows anything
Why isn't is doing that now.
Because he doesn't want to go to prison..?
This cannot turn into a MOB MENTALITY situation. I'm not a fan of the Clintons, but, he did ask today that Everything be released in full. A guilty man would not do this. Just because someone is in pictures w Epstein does not mean they are guilty. There needs to be alot more proof than just that. There IS alot more of that evidence with Donny.
Clinton’s team doesn’t give a shit. Release it all
There's nothing on Bill doing anything wrong and he's been demanding that the files get released since the beginning.
The 23 year old that Clinton was attracted to looked like she was about 40 at the time. Lewinsky actually looks younger now than she did then. I never saw anything that made me think Clinton was attracted to girls. Even Hillary looked to be in her 30s when they met. If anything, he seems to like older looking, kind of big women.
Yeah, he’s a womanizer, not a pedo.
Charge with? Hanging out doing charity work with Michael Jackson and Dianna Ross?
Let’s not pretend Clinton wasn’t heavily involved. Denying the probable fact there were Democrats involved as well gives the cult ammunition for their narrative.
This is likely the reason nobody outside of Epstein and Maxwell were charged after the investigation. There are evil fucks on both sides of the aisle.
To those downvoting this comment, give your head a shake. This information would have been released well before Trump’s campaign. There are clearly politicians and donors involved across the political spectrum. Evil knows no bounds, and every last one of them deserves to be behind bars.
If they went to the trouble of photoshopping a picture to make Bubba look guilty, would it not be easier to just release the legitimate evidence you have instead?
I'm not defending the guy if he did heinous shit, but this is Abregio Garcia all over again. All of a sudden having MS-13 tattoos in the Whitehouse photo that he doesn't seem to have in real life.
Hell they couldn't even properly redact the files. There is another thread around here about that just in the last 30 or so minutes.
There is a mountain of evidence that Clinton had a very close personal relationship with Epstein well before these partial files were released. The truth takes precedence over false narratives because we want something to be true. That is very dangerous rhetoric, and has been weaponized by the GOP and their cult members, let’s not stoop to their level and give them any shred of credibility.
Where is this mountain of evidence?
Again, not defending the guy. If evidence shows he was a pedophile, lock him up in a cell with every other single person who is also shown to be guilty, regardless if it's a Republican, Democrat or Juggalo, simple.
I feel like a powerful politician with a reputation for sexual misconduct being well documented having a close personal friendship with the most notorious child trafficker, even having a giant painting of him in a dress in his house, would not lead me to give him the benefit of the doubt. Again though, not interested in a debate over it. We’re free to believe what we believe.
People really need to be honest with themselves and ask why not a soul outside of Epstein and Maxwell were charged after the investigation concluded.
We're on the same team. We're saying the same things, I just want to see the proof is all. God willing we ever get to see some actual evidence, send all guilty parties to CECOT, including Bill Clinton, and Hillary if she knew about it and did nothing.
Clinton being Clinton is not reason for me to believe he did anything illegal. You don’t think this administration would jump at the chance to indict him if there was anything remotely possible? This man had been investigated heavily during his last term and after. Does anyone remember Ken Starr? He has been heavily scrutinized. There is no chance that he could have gotten away with anything during that time frame. Clinton is a scapegoat to distract everyone.
If you believe Republicans and their donors are the only ones involved in this, I really don’t know what else to say. Agree to disagree I guess.
I don’t see anyone saying it’s only Republicans. Don’t put words in people’s mouths.
I think it’s a fair assumption based on the fact that Clinton, the most high profile Democrat attached to Epstein, and very well documented close personal friend, is largely being presumed innocent by what appears to be the majority of comments in this thread. I’m simply voicing my opinion on the matter based on antidotal evidence, and having a discussion on it while being met with sarcasm, pointed responses and vitriol. I don’t make generalizations on any group, but there are a lot of people who align with left-wing politics who flat out refute the notion that Democrat politicians, lobbyists, and celebrities are involved. Tribal politics in any form is cancer to the masses.
I just haven’t seen that. I wish you’d post some links so we can see it as well. All I’ve seen is that we want to know everyone who was involved, which means we need to actually see the files.
People are mentioning that Clinton put out a statement demanding the full files be shown, every document and photo of himself. That’s just a fact. He did that today. That’s not defending him; that’s just saying something that happened today.
I didn’t say anything about anyone other than Clinton. Why on earth are you assuming otherwise?
This is so much bigger than just American child-rapists. It’s international.
And Britain took care of the royalty that participated. Epstein was killed since he had the dirt on everybody.
They didn't, though. They took his title, but he's still free and rich.
I’m not a lawyer, and each country has its own laws. I wonder what they would have done (if anything) if he had been in the UK with an underaged person? Would he be convicted?
Going with your vibes? Release everything and then let's decide!
No, I’m going off previously released photos from the investigation and raid of Epstein’s New York apartment, victim testimony, and general critical thinking as to how not a soul outside of 2 people have been brought on charges despite both Democrat and Republican administrations being in power.
Then why is he asking for all the files to be released. And why was nothing dumped to throw the scent off of Trimp. You think he's holding back on Clinton stuff?!
That one victim testimony is super sus. I don't trust what she said about Trump either. If he's guilty, he 100% should go to jail, but if you think I'm taking Trump's word for it, you're delusional.
My opinion and sources of information on this goes years back, before the latest partial file dump. There have been accusations against Clinton going back to the mid-2000s. We can agree to disagree on it though.
Way to parrot the right wingers.
I think it’s worth a rational and civil discourse, as opposed to pointed and sarcastic responses. Anyone who had a close friendship with that sack of shit shouldn’t receive the benefit of the doubt because of their political affiliation.
They literally removed images of Trump we knew existed, yet immediately Whatabout Bill Clinton. Fuck that, let’s see un redacted un sanitized files.
Yes, I agree. Myself along with the vast majority just want the full unredacted files to be released. I’d love to see fat fuck in office along with this entire administration be held accountable for their crimes and removed from power, but this goes beyond politics. Anyone who laid hands on a child in that manner deserves to be put in jail for the rest of their disgusting miserable lives
Where do you see this happening?
Is rational discourse the one that uses evidence, or the other kind? I personally believe that if trump had evidence on Clinton, he would have been arrested very publicly already. Which would probably be why Clinton has called for any evidence about himself to be made public.
I form my opinion based on already available court documents, photos, and victim testimony prior to Friday’s “release”.
And it does go both ways. If a Democrat administration had evidence that likely points to Trump being involved with Epstein, why would that be withheld? Hence why I do believe people on both sides are being protected. People are taking offense to this stance though and interpreting this as be criticizing Democrats, when in reality I am criticizing any possible child molester.
Who cares, Clinton is no longer president. The Current idiot is being scrubbed before our eyes.
I don’t think “who cares” is an appropriate response when discussing people who are potentially involved in child sexual trafficking and molestation
If they had evidence in those files, it would've been highly publicised. So, the simpler conclusion is that they don't have enough really bad evidence available to them. But sure, if they've been withholding evidence of a political enemy, but now decide to release it, charge him.
Quite possible, I just see it 2 ways. The first being common sense would tell me that anyone with a close relationship with Epstein who claims to have no involvement or knowledge of his activities seems like utter BS, and shouldn’t be given the benefit of the doubt. The second being I feel the reason why after the conclusion of the investigation, that only 2 people have been charged in a massive trafficking operation is unbelievably astounding. The only thing that makes sense to me is people from all walks of employment and political association are being protected. When the dam breaks, there are likely to be hundreds of people eager for their turn to finger point
Trump loves throwing people under buses. If he has a chance to make "crooked Hillary" look bad, do you really, honestly think he wouldn't?
I completely agree, hence why I’m asking why the Democrat controlled administration didn’t do the same? It seems like a fair question to me.
My entire point is that I don’t believe a single person tied to Epstein in any way should receive the benefit of the doubt of not being involved. In my life I’ve learned that there is a higher concentration of evil within the political and billionaire circles.
Stupid idea. Susie Wiles already admitted there is no evidence Clinton committed a crime. Donald is already exposed, most of his base do not care.
Didn't stop them from charging Leticia James.
IF he did something wrong, sure. I've seen nothing to indicate that in the files released so far.
I don't think that's true. MAGA has no interest in fairness. Zero, none, nada.
Charge Clinton with what? There’s zero evidence he was involved in any of Epstein’s pedophilia.
Clinton is not the current president! After rump is charged and put under a jail then we'll worry about the rest.
What utterly backwards logic. Charge Clinton with what?
If there was evidence of criminality Trump's DOJ would either have charged him already (if Trump isn't connected to it) or they will keep it buried as long as they possibly can (if Trump is connected to it).
It's functionally impossible to use some hypothetical indictment of Clinton to get to Trump.
This didn’t age well
If he was guilty they already would have released all the guilty photos of him. They're releasing these other photos so people who support Trump will say what about Clinton.
Clinton's group today asked for all files related to him to be released. Now if he did it JAIL HIM I don't care, but it doesn't sound like he did it.
Cuz there's no way they would have released any of those files without the worst ones with him in it being in it. -- the administration controls everything that goes out.
but it’ll increase the pressure and MAGA would hop on board.
They won't. They will serve their God-King no matter what. Don't get your hopes up, just solidify the Democratic and Independent anger against Trump. Harris lost by 1.5% so there is some wiggle room.
But any method to expose Trump for his part in Epstein's crimes is good.
There have to be hundreds that could be charged. We need to get them all!
Yeah Slick Willie doubled down buddy. It’s Trumps move now.
Clinton said please release more information I’m involved in. Dude prefers grown ups. Not children.
The photo of him released this weekend in a swimming pool is at some hotel with adults and has nothing to do with Epstein.
I am all for anyone who engaged in criminal behavior or even ignored it happening to be held accountable. But in the Vanity Fair article Donald Trump's Chief of staff said "Bill Clinton never went to Jeffery Epstein's island". I would think that she would have said if Bill Clinton was involved. You should read what she said about Donald Trump and him being with Epstein. It was disgusting.
He was never charged for the rapes that he has openly been accused of. Clinton never needed Epstein to find victims, so I doubt there's anything that incriminates him in the files.
Question from AUS: How does a Grand Jury work exactly, I get the prosecutors present evidence to a group(?) of people. Are they drawn from the juror pool of citizens or are they specific groups tasked with some kind of investigation powers?? Only reference I have is watching police procedural and drama such as The Wire.
Ok. So, can they just present this evidence, whatever it may be, to the grand jury to get an indictment, then proceed with this 'show' trial, what would change from them already hiding evidence and producing new evidence? This would just become political theatre
They are a general pool of jurors pulled in for just this. My husband was on one.
Thanks, I had assumed that, but I was open to being wrong. Again, reference is mostly American produced TV/Film, so accuracy is a problem.
This won't work the way you think it will
Look. If Clinton was involved then yeah, he should be held accountable.
Still should occupy the mall and demand Trump resigns.
yeah, but this is just going to lead to clinton being the fall guy because trump loves his fall guys. ask pence. ask fauci
This would immediately seal anything that hasn't been competently redacted.
“He looks guilty as hell”— of what?
Charge Clinton if Clinton is implicated in a crime. There is no other reason or motivation needed.
What crime would they be charging him with?
Charge him with what?
Check his latest statement...there is nothing there...
Victims have ALREADY revealed their predators!! Trump has been exposed! He has the statute of limitations on his side. Epstein is...gone and Maxwell is trying to walk away from all this.
We NEED to continue our pressure on the most important issues: ALL the shit he and his cabinet have been doing to ensure voters do the right thing in 2026.
2026 is truly the most important topic starting January 2nd. We should have the largest election turn-out to date!
Stop deflecting.
This is such right wing propaganda. I encourage folks to see through the bullshit.
Fuck Clinton anyway. He destroyed everything left of the New Deal and strapped the Powell Memo to a rocket. He laid the blueprint for Big Tech today with the Telcom Act, repealed Glass-Steagall, and gave final fuck you to all of us on his way out the door by removing any accountability for the financial sector.
Him and Trump are no different.
I don't recall Clinton sending out goon squads to attack "red cities" to crush his perceived enemies, but ok.
Bottom line, if Bill is guilty charge and convict. I do agree on that.
Clinton put the Powell Memo on a bullet train. He was the one who created the situation where the 2008 recession could even happen; he’s the the one who tore down the wall between commercial and investment banking; he’s the one who removed any accountability for the financial sector on how way out the door. Extractive capitalism is the primary cause of all the bullshit going on right now, the blueprint for the GOP, and Clinton put that shit into overdrive. Want to know why they’re grabbing immigrants but the deportation number doesn’t match how many they’ve grabbed? Because they’re being used as slave labor. Why? Extractive capitalism. How do these corporations have so much power? Fucking Bill Clinton.
That doesn’t mean he’s a pedo. And he and Trump are very different.
It's amazing how many people are trying to rehabilitate Clinton's image just because Trump hates him too. Yes, he's obviously deflecting from his own involvement, but why are we acting like Bill Clinton wasn't infamous for engaging in sexual abuse? And I don't want to hear any bullshit about how it was totally consensual, that can't happen in that scenario.
ClintonS
Agreed!
The Clinton's have been such a poison for the party for the last few decades.
Let him confess
The dude’s madam was invited to a White House wedding of his daughter! They were hanging out and swimming! Cut the shit! They had a damn hotline in Arkansas to handle all the sexual harassment lawsuits! He has so little self control that he got head in the Oval Office. He should have been out before he was in.
But did Clinton's team just gamble, thinking that Trump would never do the full release (giggity) so Bill now gets to look like he's someone who has nothing to hide? I think so, sports fan.
You need to filter out the ai garbage.
He isn’t guilty of sex with the Epstein victims.
I don’t hate this
It’s way way too late for any charges isn’t it? While I agree with you that he should be punished if it’s proven he was doing things with minors, it’s too late I think.
No one cares about Clinton throw his ass in jail
Without proof?
Oh he is guilty its fine, all those should be imprisoned i don't care about party or position.
Clinton is too powerful to prosecute, just like Trump. Don’t the Clinton’s just hire hit men ?
Of course not. They do it themselves, ninja style.
/s
This is very conspiracy brained, and honestly, you should feel ashamed about believing them.
Thank you for that :). I don;t get ashamed from internet strangers though
You’re joking right? Who even started these weird Clinton rumors. Both bill and Hillary have been through the wringer as far as witch hunts, looking for things they have done wrong, and they have found basically nothing. This is a man who was impeached for having a creepy but consensual sexual relationship. Which is NOT illegal. He was impeached because he said he didn’t have sexual relations with Monica. And that was ‘lying under oath’. Because they decided a blow job counts as sex. Too powerful to prosecute? Don’t make me laugh.
Are you saying rich people don’t put out hits? I don’t get it. They have the money and they have the connections. We don’t travel in their social circles , we do not know what goes on (but one can assume baffoonary).
Ok, we are going to continue pretending that they are like you and I lol
What am I even reading. Are you trying to imply that all rich people are criminals and will/do hire contract killers because they are rich?
Who was the most powerful man in the world when Epstein was assassinated?
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