between this and the "I view trans women as women but no matter how hard I try I cannot see trans men as men" thread i think i am just doomed. this is the curse of being the xx lower class.
We kinda are. Maybe it's the whole xx curse with phallus envy, maybe it's because we're almost the same as eunuchs, don't know. Unlovable and doomed either way
I have (had) a ftm friend and honestly until very recently I also didn't see him completely as a man. He is also short so I didn't feel intimidated when talking to him. And also it's like he wasn't evil and vile enough and it just didn't click for me. Something changed in him a couple months ago and now he has it. I stopped talking to him because he is insufferable now lmao but also kinda unclockable
There are a lot of people who are kind to each other thankfully but online most intercommunity stuff is incredibly reactionary and it depresses me. The post itself is probably bait but it still got to me while I was drunk ig I've been yearning for st4t because I assumed it would be a scenario where we could both understand each other's struggle, but I'm realizing both trans men and women often let their dysphoria blind them to empathizing with each other. Pretty cis of us to be engaging in the global gender war. A lot of it is valid (mostly exhaustion about trans men becoming MRAs/TERFS) but some gets exacerbated.
Men is when violent person who will make you feel threatened 24/7. I have cis male friend who wouldn’t be able to hurt me not even if they wanted to and it’s weird that you compre evilness to manhood
Idk man it's just every time I'm alone with men (I'm fully male presenting rn, hormones hasn't even kick in properly yet and I still need to lose some weight although people think I'm gay now or something because of clothes and behavior) they usually say something that makes me question how do they even have friends and especially relationships
I had a roommate who's technically very cool and all, goes to the gym and is kinda smart and, what amazed me in him, has like 3000 charisma. He had friends everywhere, men and women, and always had fun stories and jokes... I thought wow what a guy I want to be like you (before realizing I actually had a crush on him), then turned out his long distance relationship is a joke and he was cheating for a while. When I confronted him he kinda laughed and brushed it off
My cousin has somehow grown into a person who became a parody of himself. Was also a very charismatic guy but I think it was more of a facade than his real personality. We liked to hang out together when we were kids and, although not having that much in common, could talk about movies and some shared interests and our future... And now I don't even know what he turned into. Sexist, stupid, doesn't think critically at all. I think he drinks a lot now too. He very much turned into his father who he hated lol
In school I had basically no real friends except a couple guys who were also outcasts / bullied and we talked sometimes. Coincidentally we were the only ones not consumed by toxic masculinity and didn't have football / soccer / boxing as our primary interests . But even then, those same fucking people, who were 'not like others' and who I consider friendly were still misogynists and would absolutely be as toxic as others if they were stronger / taller / more charismatic, etc.
I honestly can't name a single man in my life whom I could call a good male role model and I don't know if it's my bad luck or it's just how men are. It's like misogyny is baked in from birth (although I know it's just how they're raised) and they all somehow get only stupider with age. I really hope I'm wrong here or I'm just stupid and missing some important factor that explains all that.
From stats on how much people love to jerk off to drawings or videos of pre op trans women, femboys who look like women, or fantasy intersex futa whatever women, Im convinced a lot of men who don't even like men still like really like dick
The disappointment you feel from being rejected by a cissoid will only be multiplied tenfold if it comes from another trans person. We are all human and therefore we are all pieces of shit and will reject and hurt eachother regardless of how similar we might be. It coming from someone you believe understands you better makes it hurt worse.
A man without a cock is undesirable to 99.9999% of the population including trans women, other trans men and basically anyone who isnt a boipussy piv chaser. Millions must asexualitymax.
Like honestly I do not care about cis women not finding me desirable I gave up on t4c back even when I identified as a non binary lesbian but if a trans woman did this to me I would genuinely isolate for like a solid week
There is a small portion of male bisexuals and max 2 female dominants who want to pussyfuck a beautiful twink like noahway, and the rest of the world is disgusted by the inferior and pathetic dickless poon. Phallo is not enough.
Either give up your gash to a bisexual pedophile or die celibate. I choose to die celibate.
Id rather kms than take it up the poonhole so im quite happy being cellibate considering the alternative. If youre not a pivpoon your options are truly limited and youre basically useless. Cant be fetishised as a man with a pussy and dont have a cis dick. Born to be cucked. Fmspl.
Way worse from trans girl she understands how much the mismatched brain/ body and vomit-inducing knowledge that you'll never be cis hurts. imagine putting yourself out there the way you are, being lucky enough to find someone who truly understands you and you get nuked by the fact you'll never be man enough even for them
I'm not even gay and I'd be fine with having a masc4masc relationship with another dood so we can fuck and do AAP shit together but they're all dick obsessed and do piv with cismoids
Real. I'm currently recovering from meta surgery with vaginectomy and I'd love to jerk off or be jerked man to man bc at least t4t we both understand this is the best we will get with surgeries and shit. And not be judged by cis women for small dicks, and not have to deal with cis dudes who don't understand that I don't have a rapehole anymore. I'd stick my dick up their ass but the shame i feel when comparing my own shit to there makes me wanna rope.
This situation with women made me unable to properly connect and trust in them, I can't imagine having a relationship with one anymore. Neither with a man cause I'm just not attracted enough, but T4T gets a buff for the connection. Not that it matters cause I live in the middle of nowhere on the countryside with no trans people, and don't plan on moving so that ain't gonna happen ever. But honestly I'm fine with not ever dating. I'm fine with being celibate too but meaningless sex with random bi chicks is not that bad as long as I never see them again. Maybe in the near future I will go full chaste
Same about being in butt fuck no where but just switch man and women for me. I think because of my dysphoria pussy jusy disgust me, but I find everything else about women hot. I think the same goes for guys since like my dysphoria i love getting close and person to cis cock but now that I've had surgery and my current cis bf is kinda treating me like shit when im recovering from what I'd consider a very major surgery I might just go celibate too. I did hook ups on grindr but only found chasers. Now I don't think that will be much of a problem since I don't have a rape hole but I've never met a trans guy near me that wasn't a UwU bussy bottom so basically a woman and they'd definitely not like my small dick. Maybe i should look for a trans woman but I want to support them in getting srs and like I said again, not into pussy from trauma and dysphoria so I guess i should just rope because trannies like me don't deserve physical affection.
Funny enough I'm the opposite of you on the dick pussy thing despite also having normal bottom dysphoria. Don't like dicks much. Neutral about them but I don't want to interact with it in any way other than frotting. Would have massive problems in a ST4T relationship cause I don't like ass as well. Don't like fucking it and definitely not eating it. So that leaves me with cis women, that I'm incapable of developing a trustful relationship with. I really am destined to be celibate cause I hate hookups. Will never be on the apps or randomly hooking up in person but it can end up happening when really drunk on a party with other single friends that happened to make pairs with a group of girls. Never sober and voluntarily though
yeah not finishing that not finishing that not finishing that. I’m not reading after i just really miss dick. No foid is normal no foid wants a trans male no foid will ever see me as a male it’s over get this off my fyp
maybe this is part of why a lot of no-bottom trans men date lesbians or straight men. Being with someone who likes dick at all is a disaster waiting to happen. You may be with a chaser, but at least they're attracted to you physically.
I of course look like that (supermodel levels of attractiveness but in the wrong direction) because I haven't been able to get on T. ...Is that AGP that I'd rather date someone who looks like me than look like what I currently look like. I mean obviously I don't want to look how I currently look because I would rather actually look like a man... but the way I look was wasted on me
Incorrect. Cishet women expect dick, but most don't really love it. Groups of cis women will snicker about how weird it looks and how dumb it is that men are always so proud of theirs. A significant portion don't even like PIV, but tolerate it because they want a boyfriend/husband and/or kids. A fair amount lose interest so completely it leads to dead bedrooms. Even women who hook up more often want the attention and validation, are touch-starved and lonely more generally, want to feel desirable and valuable, etc, rather than actually enjoying getting penetrated that much. Some like PIV but don't love it--they think it feels "nice enough," like a backrub, but don't get that much out of it. Some pretend to love it to get male attention, because they know moids are basic and go crazy for a woman praising their cocks. (Men will literally pay women to rate their cocks--women do not do this for free, and would never think of this on their own.) Even of the women who genuinely love PIV, many of them like how it feels, but don't really want to look at it. (Women's perceptions of how receptive PIV feels vary widely, anywhere from painful, to uncomfortable, to boring, to mildly pleasurable, to intensely pleasurable.) Blowjobs are much more about pleasuring their partner rather than the cock itself. There's a very good reason there's no such thing as a straight glory hole.
I've only ever heard men talk this way about cocks and cum--or women in porn, who are being paid to play to male tastes. Most porn/camming aimed at cishet moids is basically "what if a woman behaved like a gay male," because how gay men act is what men truly in their hearts desire, straight men just want a woman to do it.
Cishet women are more pussy repulsed than they are cock attracted. Cishet women are often so pussy repulsed they have difficulty engaging with or thinking about their own pussies. There are cishet foids who never masturbate and never look at themselves "down there." They think of that part of their bodies as more "for men" than for themselves. It isn't gender dysphoria, they don't wish to have penises or to have nothing or to be anything other than a woman, they just tend to think genitals in general are "icky" but vaginas especially so--they let men do the thinking about genitalia.
I genuinely believe even nullo surgery would vastly improve a trans man's chances with cishet women. The absence of a pussy would matter more than the presence of a cock.
It's more that they desire a very specific kind of man that doesn't exist in real life. Booktok types want some 6'8" ripped vampire bad boy with a cock as long as their arm. If you wrote about a normal man with a normal dick they'd most likely not have the same reaction. It's like how most men are attracted to a hypothetical/unobtainable type of woman instead of just an average chick.
This is why you shouldn't date. Not even a good idea if you're cis really, we should just let humanity go extinct and vibe around the fire as the last remaining old people who are way past the point of being able to fix the situation by reproducing
there's like no way you'd ruin a perfect relationship because you miss dick like... Just talk to your partner i'm sure with toys you could have better sex.
I hate when girls don't love and respect trans men. It really breaks my heart and I cry about it. Because I wouldn't do that to them... So ungrateful people, god gives nuts to those who have no teeth.
On behalf of trannies, biggest apologies and so sorry transmen, you can unleash your masculine man fury upon me, I'll show you that there are still good girls out there.
genuinely dick is not good enough for her to be acting like this like girl be calm
“i miss feeling it ☺️” every single time i have been held by a man and felt him get hard i literally wanted to rip my own skin off. also… literally just ask him to use a strap or something more idk?? they have vibrating ones too
correct me, but i feel like it’s always mtfs who willingly enter ST4T relationships and then complain about their partner’s genitalia, never the other way around
hold the fucking phone, is it transphobic to envision your trans MAN bf as having a dick?
I'm sure both OOP AND bf desire it just the same, albeit for different reasons.
The desire I believe is absolutely fine as long as you're not a dick about it. You can just work together towards fulfilling that need, together and respectfully.
It's only a problem if the bf doesn't actually want to engage on that at all.
the problem is oop keeps going on and on about how much they want something the bf doesnt have, how much they want what he doesnt have, cant ever have, how they miss it so much and how he cant ever provide it for them. like YEAH, im SURE he knows that he doesnt have a dick. you know how much it hurts to hear that youd be so much better with one, that your partner doesnt want what you have, and that youre not enough?
This is why I don't consider straight women human whether they are trans or cis. If I could fuck one I would but as long as she was a straight (or cisbi) woman I would never respect her as I know this is how androphilic women really feel.
its awful but like i kinda get her. it honestly is that good. i consider myself bi but i couldn't rlly imagine going without in a serious relationship.
honestly she's shitty for letting the relationship go on that long knowing that her bf can't give her what she needs in a relationship. let him find someone who likes him for who he is instead of fantasizing about him being different
TRVKE thank you for being honest, too many ftms are stuck in cope, monkmaxx or advocate for better phallo we are so fucked guys you do not know the half of it
“Phallo dick is real dick”
Mkay keep telling yourself that, we could’ve had a better surgery if y’all stopped coping earlier but what do I know
i honestly don't understand why im being downvoted like this whole subreddit is rife with "ywnbaw no uterus blah blah" but apparently "i am attracted to penises exclusively" is over the line
also ive never seen a phallo dick irl but a lot of the pics look pretty good and honestly if that surgery is half decent id be down
Stop lying to me and other trans men, I know exactly why you’re being downvoted, why would you come into a post and then rub salt into the wound? I’m thanking you because the guys here need to hear the truth out of someone who is not also ftm.
Bsffr most of the uterus ywnbaw stuff comes from your fellow trans women/troons, Pooners don’t do that in fact we praise your srs since it’s leaps and bounds better than ours
Edit: they hated jesus because he spoke the truth, okay then downvote me
Yeah I'm gonna be unlovable freak forever
Let's be honest, even trans women don't see us as men. Even if he had surgery, she still wouldn't be happy. It's brutal
ftms realising we live in a world designed for worshipping cock
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No one does tbh
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it's like this is written just to devastate people
between this and the "I view trans women as women but no matter how hard I try I cannot see trans men as men" thread i think i am just doomed. this is the curse of being the xx lower class.
We kinda are. Maybe it's the whole xx curse with phallus envy, maybe it's because we're almost the same as eunuchs, don't know. Unlovable and doomed either way
I have (had) a ftm friend and honestly until very recently I also didn't see him completely as a man. He is also short so I didn't feel intimidated when talking to him. And also it's like he wasn't evil and vile enough and it just didn't click for me. Something changed in him a couple months ago and now he has it. I stopped talking to him because he is insufferable now lmao but also kinda unclockable
wtf i have guys i feel safe talking to doesnt mean i see them as women
Oh cool cool cool
so, relationships and fucking are definitely off the table
and now friendships are off the table too
time to go back to schizoidmaxxing
How to not end it honestly when we cant even trust friendships and other trans people
(taking notes) Short men are like women
I mean… height, strength, and a penis are the most appealing qualities for a male. Pooners don’t have any of those unless they cycle
why did you feel the need to post this and why did anyone else feel the need to upvote it
Most trannies hate each other
billions must be nice to each other :(
There are a lot of people who are kind to each other thankfully but online most intercommunity stuff is incredibly reactionary and it depresses me. The post itself is probably bait but it still got to me while I was drunk ig I've been yearning for st4t because I assumed it would be a scenario where we could both understand each other's struggle, but I'm realizing both trans men and women often let their dysphoria blind them to empathizing with each other. Pretty cis of us to be engaging in the global gender war. A lot of it is valid (mostly exhaustion about trans men becoming MRAs/TERFS) but some gets exacerbated.
Men is when violent person who will make you feel threatened 24/7. I have cis male friend who wouldn’t be able to hurt me not even if they wanted to and it’s weird that you compre evilness to manhood
Idk man it's just every time I'm alone with men (I'm fully male presenting rn, hormones hasn't even kick in properly yet and I still need to lose some weight although people think I'm gay now or something because of clothes and behavior) they usually say something that makes me question how do they even have friends and especially relationships
I had a roommate who's technically very cool and all, goes to the gym and is kinda smart and, what amazed me in him, has like 3000 charisma. He had friends everywhere, men and women, and always had fun stories and jokes... I thought wow what a guy I want to be like you (before realizing I actually had a crush on him), then turned out his long distance relationship is a joke and he was cheating for a while. When I confronted him he kinda laughed and brushed it off
My cousin has somehow grown into a person who became a parody of himself. Was also a very charismatic guy but I think it was more of a facade than his real personality. We liked to hang out together when we were kids and, although not having that much in common, could talk about movies and some shared interests and our future... And now I don't even know what he turned into. Sexist, stupid, doesn't think critically at all. I think he drinks a lot now too. He very much turned into his father who he hated lol
In school I had basically no real friends except a couple guys who were also outcasts / bullied and we talked sometimes. Coincidentally we were the only ones not consumed by toxic masculinity and didn't have football / soccer / boxing as our primary interests . But even then, those same fucking people, who were 'not like others' and who I consider friendly were still misogynists and would absolutely be as toxic as others if they were stronger / taller / more charismatic, etc.
I honestly can't name a single man in my life whom I could call a good male role model and I don't know if it's my bad luck or it's just how men are. It's like misogyny is baked in from birth (although I know it's just how they're raised) and they all somehow get only stupider with age. I really hope I'm wrong here or I'm just stupid and missing some important factor that explains all that.
Would be interested in your take on this btw
Exactly
it is
I tried pointing out that women are like this but I got my post taken down
Real ones know, despite how everyone tries to sweep it under the rug.
Reason number 2445633 why sT4T is fake
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arent we all?
its a 4chan sub
I strongly believe this is what almost every person solely attracted to men actually feels like, especially cis people
From stats on how much people love to jerk off to drawings or videos of pre op trans women, femboys who look like women, or fantasy intersex futa whatever women, Im convinced a lot of men who don't even like men still like really like dick
yeah hussies got a lot of straight guys wanting to suck it
Yeah.
The disappointment you feel from being rejected by a cissoid will only be multiplied tenfold if it comes from another trans person. We are all human and therefore we are all pieces of shit and will reject and hurt eachother regardless of how similar we might be. It coming from someone you believe understands you better makes it hurt worse.
A man without a cock is undesirable to 99.9999% of the population including trans women, other trans men and basically anyone who isnt a boipussy piv chaser. Millions must asexualitymax.
Like honestly I do not care about cis women not finding me desirable I gave up on t4c back even when I identified as a non binary lesbian but if a trans woman did this to me I would genuinely isolate for like a solid week
There is a small portion of male bisexuals and max 2 female dominants who want to pussyfuck a beautiful twink like noahway, and the rest of the world is disgusted by the inferior and pathetic dickless poon. Phallo is not enough.
Either give up your gash to a bisexual pedophile or die celibate. I choose to die celibate.
Id rather kms than take it up the poonhole so im quite happy being cellibate considering the alternative. If youre not a pivpoon your options are truly limited and youre basically useless. Cant be fetishised as a man with a pussy and dont have a cis dick. Born to be cucked. Fmspl.
That only apply for bisexual, gay pooner not straight ftm, I rather shut my hole rather let anyone do piv
Exactly. If you won’t give up the rapegash it’s over.
reason number 1436858 ill always be afraid of dating a trans girl
of dating anyone to be honest.
Real but i would atleast have expected that from a cis gay bf, i would rope if my tgirlfriend said that
What makes it worse for you? Coming from a trans girl vs cis guy?
Way worse from trans girl she understands how much the mismatched brain/ body and vomit-inducing knowledge that you'll never be cis hurts. imagine putting yourself out there the way you are, being lucky enough to find someone who truly understands you and you get nuked by the fact you'll never be man enough even for them
maybe this is just cope but this really reads like fake bullshit meant to make pooners rope to me
I can sense the guilt is real but might just be schizo again
literally everything on 4chan is trolling bait. this was likely written by a conservative cishet gooner as are 99% of all 4chan posts
It wouldn't be this insistent on her loving him in a genuine if misguided seeming way
Even if it's fake, it still represents 99% of straight women
evil behaviour and probably bait
say what you will about transbians but at least they dont do shit like this and complain about not getting pussy in t4t relationships
transbianism is a perfectly balance self sustaining ecosystem
Us bidens/gaydens could have what transbians have if the majority weren’t gigafembrained piv only bottoms. Another biden is my only hope
I'm not even gay and I'd be fine with having a masc4masc relationship with another dood so we can fuck and do AAP shit together but they're all dick obsessed and do piv with cismoids
Real. I'm currently recovering from meta surgery with vaginectomy and I'd love to jerk off or be jerked man to man bc at least t4t we both understand this is the best we will get with surgeries and shit. And not be judged by cis women for small dicks, and not have to deal with cis dudes who don't understand that I don't have a rapehole anymore. I'd stick my dick up their ass but the shame i feel when comparing my own shit to there makes me wanna rope.
This situation with women made me unable to properly connect and trust in them, I can't imagine having a relationship with one anymore. Neither with a man cause I'm just not attracted enough, but T4T gets a buff for the connection. Not that it matters cause I live in the middle of nowhere on the countryside with no trans people, and don't plan on moving so that ain't gonna happen ever. But honestly I'm fine with not ever dating. I'm fine with being celibate too but meaningless sex with random bi chicks is not that bad as long as I never see them again. Maybe in the near future I will go full chaste
Same about being in butt fuck no where but just switch man and women for me. I think because of my dysphoria pussy jusy disgust me, but I find everything else about women hot. I think the same goes for guys since like my dysphoria i love getting close and person to cis cock but now that I've had surgery and my current cis bf is kinda treating me like shit when im recovering from what I'd consider a very major surgery I might just go celibate too. I did hook ups on grindr but only found chasers. Now I don't think that will be much of a problem since I don't have a rape hole but I've never met a trans guy near me that wasn't a UwU bussy bottom so basically a woman and they'd definitely not like my small dick. Maybe i should look for a trans woman but I want to support them in getting srs and like I said again, not into pussy from trauma and dysphoria so I guess i should just rope because trannies like me don't deserve physical affection.
Funny enough I'm the opposite of you on the dick pussy thing despite also having normal bottom dysphoria. Don't like dicks much. Neutral about them but I don't want to interact with it in any way other than frotting. Would have massive problems in a ST4T relationship cause I don't like ass as well. Don't like fucking it and definitely not eating it. So that leaves me with cis women, that I'm incapable of developing a trustful relationship with. I really am destined to be celibate cause I hate hookups. Will never be on the apps or randomly hooking up in person but it can end up happening when really drunk on a party with other single friends that happened to make pairs with a group of girls. Never sober and voluntarily though
utterly offtopic but i do not love that word https://i.imgur.com/D0jGDl1.png
Despite it all T4T transbians just can’t stop winning
trvke
No, but they are like 90% bottoms so they're reliant on the cisbians who like to top because the 10% transbian tops aren't machines.
thanks
maybe i really am just a woman pretending to be a man.
yeah not finishing that not finishing that not finishing that. I’m not reading after i just really miss dick. No foid is normal no foid wants a trans male no foid will ever see me as a male it’s over get this off my fyp
maybe this is part of why a lot of no-bottom trans men date lesbians or straight men. Being with someone who likes dick at all is a disaster waiting to happen. You may be with a chaser, but at least they're attracted to you physically.
"No-bottom"? I have phallo and it's not even seen as a real dick by trans people. Considering going T4C instead so I can finally top.
That sounds brutal :/
how would a lesbian or a straight man be physically attracted to an actually transitioning non-poondosed trans man?
Pussysexuals
Actually transitioning doesn't always lead to full passing as you know
(By 'you know' I mean that everyone on the sub knows that not that you specifically don't pass)
that's why they don't actually transition
bi
I'm mtf and this pmo
He should break up with her bitch ass for this alone.
Yeah and then rebound with who?
Supermodel cis woman for maximum emotional damage
Those want us? lmao
Gold diggers maybe
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I of course look like that (supermodel levels of attractiveness but in the wrong direction) because I haven't been able to get on T. ...Is that AGP that I'd rather date someone who looks like me than look like what I currently look like. I mean obviously I don't want to look how I currently look because I would rather actually look like a man... but the way I look was wasted on me
Cisfoid chasers....I feel like there's more of them than there are st4t trans women
Where
killing myself
Ropefuel.
hoooooly shit im ending it for real this time!!! ill never be a FUCKING MALE!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAAH
Fuck my stupid dickless life
Suicide inducing image
Its okay I can only cum imagining myself with a penis too. Lets all fucking kill ourselves whatever
i fucking hate this shit, it doesnt matter if it's a tranny or it's a cissoid all women think like this if they want to admit it or not
i could only date other pooners or women with no interest in sex at all because i'm hyper paranoid of ts happening bro
Girl look down💀
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yoga time
i should rope
ewww oop is agp and wnbaw
dont get me wrong i like dick too but like oop is clearly gay male brained to be so obsessed with cum like wtf girl be calm
wouldn’t that be hsts instead of agp then by definition
no, its agp meta attracted mef. trve hsts have some dignity and would never use 4chan
"meta attracted agp" is giving off "having sex with women is gay, actually" andrew tate type radiation
im saying that posting on 4chan with a photo of an anime girl and a long paragraph about loving cum all over you is agp, how is that a weird belief?
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Pure delusions
This is actually what every cis girl thinks too. Cis het women are primarily penis sexual, only gay men enjoy the male body.
Incorrect. Cishet women expect dick, but most don't really love it. Groups of cis women will snicker about how weird it looks and how dumb it is that men are always so proud of theirs. A significant portion don't even like PIV, but tolerate it because they want a boyfriend/husband and/or kids. A fair amount lose interest so completely it leads to dead bedrooms. Even women who hook up more often want the attention and validation, are touch-starved and lonely more generally, want to feel desirable and valuable, etc, rather than actually enjoying getting penetrated that much. Some like PIV but don't love it--they think it feels "nice enough," like a backrub, but don't get that much out of it. Some pretend to love it to get male attention, because they know moids are basic and go crazy for a woman praising their cocks. (Men will literally pay women to rate their cocks--women do not do this for free, and would never think of this on their own.) Even of the women who genuinely love PIV, many of them like how it feels, but don't really want to look at it. (Women's perceptions of how receptive PIV feels vary widely, anywhere from painful, to uncomfortable, to boring, to mildly pleasurable, to intensely pleasurable.) Blowjobs are much more about pleasuring their partner rather than the cock itself. There's a very good reason there's no such thing as a straight glory hole.
I've only ever heard men talk this way about cocks and cum--or women in porn, who are being paid to play to male tastes. Most porn/camming aimed at cishet moids is basically "what if a woman behaved like a gay male," because how gay men act is what men truly in their hearts desire, straight men just want a woman to do it.
Cishet women are more pussy repulsed than they are cock attracted. Cishet women are often so pussy repulsed they have difficulty engaging with or thinking about their own pussies. There are cishet foids who never masturbate and never look at themselves "down there." They think of that part of their bodies as more "for men" than for themselves. It isn't gender dysphoria, they don't wish to have penises or to have nothing or to be anything other than a woman, they just tend to think genitals in general are "icky" but vaginas especially so--they let men do the thinking about genitalia.
I genuinely believe even nullo surgery would vastly improve a trans man's chances with cishet women. The absence of a pussy would matter more than the presence of a cock.
Honestly one of the best representations of cishet female sexuality I've ever read
painful trvke
to say that a significant portion "don't like PIV" or cocks in general reads like cope go read any of that booktok bullshit
It's more that they desire a very specific kind of man that doesn't exist in real life. Booktok types want some 6'8" ripped vampire bad boy with a cock as long as their arm. If you wrote about a normal man with a normal dick they'd most likely not have the same reaction. It's like how most men are attracted to a hypothetical/unobtainable type of woman instead of just an average chick.
Women like books, not dicks. If they wanted dicks, they could very easily get dicks. They want books. Books are not dicks.
the fact that they'd rather read about dicks than look at them is good evidence that theyre not visually attracted to them at least
If this was true wouldn’t cis women be mtf chasers.
They are still mild androphiles and want to breed and most trans women are ugly, effeminate, and low status.
;~;
cope
Don't worry, I wish I had a dick too...
Man i dont blame her i fantasize about my fantasy girlfriend being the same with my fantasy dick
I might need to kill myself
This is why you shouldn't date. Not even a good idea if you're cis really, we should just let humanity go extinct and vibe around the fire as the last remaining old people who are way past the point of being able to fix the situation by reproducing
This is a psyop
iwnbam
me
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gay malebrained moment
Yeah I am getting that phalloplasty I don’t care if I have to inflate it like a balloon I need to have sex like a real man
i mean, i "like" my boyfriends dick bc its attached to him but this is literally just like fag speak, who talks about cum like it's a delicacy 😭
shitty to be posting that instead of talking to her bf, relationship doomed to fail
This is honestly less upsetting than people who like boypussy at least want me for what I want not what I hate
Never felt like this for even a second, targeted psyop or rеtarded op
Maybe being severely autistic isn't that bad after all. I won't ever have to deal with this shit.
There is no escape
stupid ass hussies are the reason why st4t have such a bad rep and all the moids in the replies who thinks st4t is doomed is stupid but understandable
god fucking damn it I'm never gonna find a pooner bf because they all think we're all like this, fmstl
Proof that women are fucking evil
OOP is retarded. I hope the poon sees this and dumps her bitch ass
I hate women.
there's like no way you'd ruin a perfect relationship because you miss dick like... Just talk to your partner i'm sure with toys you could have better sex.
nah fr they make straps that cum too like
ts is why i've been a repper for a decade
Thank you god for making me aromantic so I will never know what it feels like to have a girlfriend knowing damn well I cannot please her.
iwnbam
there's absolutely no way this was typed in earnest wtf,,,
this is lwk probs a pooner larping as tranny
this bitch fucking sucks and this post is breakup worthy. and I need phallo immediately.
This is why I have sex and never date
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At least she’s attracted to men and sees him as one. I’d rather have this than someone who just sees me as a walking pussy tbhon
fuck you fuck you fuck you you're an idiot ungrateful straggot. i am actually grateful and i love tdick and packers and prosthetics
I hate when girls don't love and respect trans men. It really breaks my heart and I cry about it. Because I wouldn't do that to them... So ungrateful people, god gives nuts to those who have no teeth.
On behalf of trannies, biggest apologies and so sorry transmen, you can unleash your masculine man fury upon me, I'll show you that there are still good girls out there.
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Unfortunate trvke
Disgusting
i feel this but only bc by bf is pre-T, t-dick will fix me
me but I’m mtf and this is my straight boyfriend
I would rather be alone for the rest of my life than be with someone who secretly thinks this about me
What in the Reddit post
Phallocentrist slop.
genuinely dick is not good enough for her to be acting like this like girl be calm
“i miss feeling it ☺️” every single time i have been held by a man and felt him get hard i literally wanted to rip my own skin off. also… literally just ask him to use a strap or something more idk?? they have vibrating ones too
Hope she never finds love again. Is a fucking meat stick that important?
Not to be a bitch but.. suck your own
a trve woman would never be THAT obssessed over dick, anon is a malebrained gay man pretending to be a troon
nah, plenty of T4C doods on the same situation
Giga cope
Yep it’s over
May be larp but doesnt change that it's a common reality
Ngl paragraph two making me fidget like a sneedhon when I've never even had it. I hate my faggy brain worms.
i will fuckin never date an mtf
sorry but do u think cis women r better and more patient or what
no, i just expect more empathy from mtfs than from cissies, that’s why when other 🚂🦵s say shit like this it’s pmo a lot more
(btw look at my flair, it may be helpful)
Plenty of Mtf trannies just don’t think this lol
and also plenty of mtf trannies do think this lol
correct me, but i feel like it’s always mtfs who willingly enter ST4T relationships and then complain about their partner’s genitalia, never the other way around
ok who r u dating if ur not dating trannys or cissoids
I didn't say that I don't date trannys and cissoids, i said only mtfs
jokes on you if you think that I'm doing something else besides bedrotting
how the fuck does this relate to our conversation
ur annoying
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She shouldn’t stress it that much he probably misses actually pussy too. Just the pitfall of st4t ig…
skill issue, suck a packer
this person is agp
reads much more hsts to me.
hold the fucking phone, is it transphobic to envision your trans MAN bf as having a dick?
I'm sure both OOP AND bf desire it just the same, albeit for different reasons.
The desire I believe is absolutely fine as long as you're not a dick about it. You can just work together towards fulfilling that need, together and respectfully.
It's only a problem if the bf doesn't actually want to engage on that at all.
the problem is oop keeps going on and on about how much they want something the bf doesnt have, how much they want what he doesnt have, cant ever have, how they miss it so much and how he cant ever provide it for them. like YEAH, im SURE he knows that he doesnt have a dick. you know how much it hurts to hear that youd be so much better with one, that your partner doesnt want what you have, and that youre not enough?
This is why I don't consider straight women human whether they are trans or cis. If I could fuck one I would but as long as she was a straight (or cisbi) woman I would never respect her as I know this is how androphilic women really feel.
I don't care if you're joking about women not being human beings, fuck you for even putting that combination of words together
You're right now that I think about it the issue is that I'm not a human being and women are
They have all the qualities of being empathetic, anxious, relatable, and discriminatory in a way that is very human.
I edited the comment.
(don't read this oomf its the same as everypony else's comments)
pmo. not all that matters. love more serious than s#xual appeal. s#xual appeal more varied than "muh mcguffin genitals". ragebait worked
this is why i would be scared of doing t4t if he didnt have phallo
GGs
Reasons why I don’t wanna date women (or be in a relationship at all)
It’s so fucking over omfg
blue bitch ruined a lot
its awful but like i kinda get her. it honestly is that good. i consider myself bi but i couldn't rlly imagine going without in a serious relationship.
honestly she's shitty for letting the relationship go on that long knowing that her bf can't give her what she needs in a relationship. let him find someone who likes him for who he is instead of fantasizing about him being different
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your comment makes me wanna do it
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see my other reply i am exclusively speaking for myself here. not everyone feels the same but oop does and all im saying is i get it
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TRVKE thank you for being honest, too many ftms are stuck in cope, monkmaxx or advocate for better phallo we are so fucked guys you do not know the half of it
“Phallo dick is real dick”
Mkay keep telling yourself that, we could’ve had a better surgery if y’all stopped coping earlier but what do I know
i honestly don't understand why im being downvoted like this whole subreddit is rife with "ywnbaw no uterus blah blah" but apparently "i am attracted to penises exclusively" is over the line
also ive never seen a phallo dick irl but a lot of the pics look pretty good and honestly if that surgery is half decent id be down
Stop lying to me and other trans men, I know exactly why you’re being downvoted, why would you come into a post and then rub salt into the wound? I’m thanking you because the guys here need to hear the truth out of someone who is not also ftm.
Bsffr most of the uterus ywnbaw stuff comes from your fellow trans women/troons, Pooners don’t do that in fact we praise your srs since it’s leaps and bounds better than ours
Edit: they hated jesus because he spoke the truth, okay then downvote me
agreed, but i would never get in the relationship in the first place cus i wouldnt wanna lead him on. OOP shouldve done the same