So I got a CR-10 probably 8+ years ago by now.. my wife and I used the hell out of it until 2019 when we had our first child when all time consuming hobbies essentially STOPPED. At the time, my CR10 took some tinkering, so we just didn't have any time and so it.. sat.. well my wife mentioned a month or so that we should get back into 3d printing both for fun and for random things we mention from time to time "sure would be nice if we could fire up the ol' 3d printer and make this real quick." Well, I took advantage of that statement and bought my wife a Bambu Lab P1S with an AMS. I initially figured i could use these stacks to play with but I picked one up and it started crumbling a bit (think uncooked spaghetti). Is it worth/possible reconditioning them? I hate throwing away this much filament hut I also don't want to damage my new printer or get garbage quality prints and lose any excitement momentum from my wife.. filaments are about 1/3 makergeek, polymaker, and other. PLA and PETG for the most part.

  • Depends on the filament and the humidity of the place you live in. But should be pretty much usable with some drying.

    If it's not crumbling to pieces when you try to unroll it a bit then it might even be usable straight away. How usable it is will be apparent during/after printing.

    Just fire up the printer and try to print a couple of benchys. Do use generic pla/petg profiles though not the high speed ones

    Source: I have 6 year old filament that still just prints. And 2 year old filament that is impossible to print. I live in a pretty arid climate though. Ymmv

    I'm still using some PLA that I bought 2015, never dried it. It is slowly getting brittle though

    I did that with an old roll of hatchbox pla from 2020 and it got stuck in my ams. Which I had to disassemble to remove the broken part. :(

    Cut the first 20 feet. It should feel different from the rest of it, more rough.

    This is strange by my experience too. Do you think it’s the outer ring of the spool?

    I agree! I used 8 yo filament recently. The first couple 20 minutes of the print printed bad, but after that it’s been perfect. 

    3d pen filament!

    I’ve wondered this. Is The crumbling due to being exposed to moisture? If so if it was dried it would be less crumbling (that doesn’t seem right)?

    Yeah, unintuitive, but that's right.

    I mean brittle because moisture part is correct. Drying does not make it like original only slightly less brittle. But it makes it print better by removing water which boils at the nozzle and creates a lot of problems during printing.

    Brittleness is certain indicator of water is in there.

    I am not 100% sure but afaik water makes it brittle by crystalizing some strands in the pla. When you dry it, it goes back to non crystal form but not as long strands anymore. So the damage is permanent but since you melt it anyway it does not matter as long as you are able to make it molten at the nozzle. Question is that is it flexible enough to feed in to (and not get crushed) by the extruder.

  • Would you trash them without trying only because a stranger on the internet says so?

    this is Reddit. people don't just make things up with authoritative certainty.

    "Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, u/FictionalContext. 14% of people know that" - Homer Simpson

    Funny isn't what you just did? 😂

  • DO NOT USE. I'll send my address and will recycle it for you. ;)

    Dont listen to them,they WILL NOT RECYCLE IT. They are trying to trick you OP.

    But I will definitely make sure your filament is processed properly.

    Don’t listen to either of them. I’m going to send the filament to starving printers in Africa.

  • Absolutely. Just dry it first.

    Moisture damage to PLA is permanent, it would remain more brittle even after drying.

    That said, this damage is often overblown and as long as it still feels fine it's probably fine. OP might just have to discard the outer layer if it feels odd.

    Can confirm. I had 5 year old filament from when I worked in a school with a printer but bought my own. Finally got my own printer, dried the filament and that shit seemed fine at first but rapidly shattered into pieces. It created a bunch of work and little tiny pieces got stuck in weird places so even when I thought it was done it wasn't.

    If op uses it they should not use it in an ams

  • When I got back into FDM printing, I had a few rolls that were older than that. All but one of them printed just fine. The one that didn't print was obviously bad because it shattered when you touched it.

  • Dry it and send it.

    Let us know how it goes :D

  • For really brittle filament try drying it (oven as low as it goes for several hours, or any other drying method) then run a test print.

    You won't damage a printer with wet/brittle filament so long as you keep an eye on it while it prints. Worst you get is a garbage print.

    I really don't recommend using the AMS with the old filament until you have confirmed that it still prints well and isn't too brittle. (Drying should make it less brittle). Saves the trouble of trying to remove broken filament from the whole system when it starts to disintegrate.

    I had a roll that was three years old and brittle and broke all the time. Even after 12h in a dryer with 55c it was still brittle and broke all the time. I trashed it. That said I would still try to dry and test old filament.

  • Nobody here can answer this question for you. Get a cheap filament dryer, condition a roll overnight and see what happens. Maybe don't use it for aircraft parts.

  • I've been using 5-year old filament for a while now, and it's a bit of a hit or miss. Most of my rolls print fine albeit a lot shinier than normal, and some others have awful top layer quality. Those are good for prototyping and nothing else, also I'm cheap and don't feel like throwing rolls out 😂 Only thing is I can't use them inside my AMS because they're super brittle and WILL break inside the PTFE while swapping them out. Other than that they work fine.

  • I've got some that's over a decade old that works great. Never been dried or sealed or anything.

  • Just dry it and print it. Nothing to lose.

  • Is it worth taking apart your printer to unclog it if it breaks? Just ask yourself that and if you don't care about taking it apart to get the (possibly) broken pieces out then yeah use it

  • Put them in a tent or bathroom and humidifier them so they have some moisture to soak up and let them stay moist fo afew days then dry the rolls and try using it. It worked like 3 times for me so try it out.

    I’ve heard plenty about drying but never about getting them wet before drying. What’s the idea behind that?

    First time I did it, it was a drunken idea and I had a old roll of filament and I just put it in a bucket with a fogger on it for a night and when I woke up I was like "ok why is this old brittle roll in there" . And it was less brittle and I dried it out eith a dehumidifier in my closet and decided to print with it and my golly it worked. I then did it 2 more times to my other 2 old rolls and it worked

    Sounds like one of those ideas most people have, realize it's not useful, and move on from before even realizing they had the idea. Instead they just went with it.

  • So....just this weekend past, I too, took a look at my box of 7-8 year old filament. Bought a MakerBot Replicator, then, and now I have a Bambu X1Carbon. I stored it new in one of those Rubbermaid tubs with foam seals, along with plenty of dessicant, and decided to give it a try. First, I printed a 23-minute ornament, and then put on a 13.5-hour lamp globe (deathstar). It turned out fantastic, and I am very pleased. Actually, amazed is more accurate. I have to give Bambu credit for the incredible performance. Give it a shot!

  • I'm still using some 15yo filament :D .... some turned to @%@)^ and is trashed others are printing awesome .... jus try it out, if they start breaking as soon as you handle them - throw them away, no matter of what you do to them moisture broke the chains and it is now microplastic ... i tried dunking them in water then drying, only drying, drying at "just below melting" temp ... nothing helped ... but those that can safely be handled and will not break as you move a filament a bit - dry overnight and they are safe to use. filament sensor is a must as they can break during print so you want your print to pause so you can reload it but that's all

    I do have some old ones that behave weird - they print fine but as soon as you stop printing after 1-2 minutes filament will break above extruder .... you load it for next print it works fine, when print stops it breakes after 1-2 min :D ... weird but totally usable... so test yours, depending on the way they are stored and the amount and type of additives inside they can be just fine or garbage ... try and you will know

    ...moisture broke the chains and it is now microplastic...

    The chemist in me just died a little inside. 

    please give us proper explanation as other chemists said those words that I'm repeating

  • If it crumbles like uncooked spaghetti, it's dead. Just toss it. It'll do nothing but cause jams.

    If you unroll it a bit and give it a good tug, and it doesn't break, it's probably savable. Might need drying.

  • I actually just printed 12 headphone wall mounts with 8 year old filament. A little brittle but it will hold a pair of headphones on my wall.

  • While you're testing use the shortest distance from the spool to the nozzle. In other words, skip the filament changer until you're confident the filament is good. Otherwise, you might end up having to clean out about six miles of PTFE tube like I did.

  • If it isn't printing well or is too brittle, don't throw it out, we'll pay for shipping to recycle it here into new filament!

  • Do not run brittle filament through your AMS unless you enjoy taking apart your AMS.

  • I loaded up a 7 year old spool of PETG and ripped off a 5 hour print in my Voron 2.4 with no issues. I have a 12 year old spool of PLA that still has a bit on it, might see if it'll print just for the hell of it later. 

  • Yes.. try it out..

  • I am using 4 year olds.

    Do they test your spools for you?

    Icwutudidder

  • Dry the hell out of it, pull a meter or two off the spool and see if it breaks when you bend it.

    In my experience, if it bends and changes color from the stress, you're good to run it through most bowdens, unless you got some crazy angle.

    I've had brittle filament still print fine, but it's the concern of breakage in the tube beyond that.

  • Question for the group: Storage orientation matters too, right?

  • Humidifying and then drying and break testing would be my goto… then test rip a section off and test print it…

  • Just dry it and print ... That what i did with a 10 years old and roll ...

  • The oven method will work in a pinch; but with as many spools as you have, I would recommend investing in a proper dryer with a humidity gauge. Some of them are made so that you can feed filament directly into the printer from them. That is very useful when you don't print too often and don't want to bag up all the spools that are not in use (though that's also a good idea, given how many you have).

    Are you talking about something like this? When you say bag up, I assume you mean something like a large zip lock? Thanks for the feedback! I was thinking the opposite, I could knock out half this stack in an oven set to low. Would a dedicated filament dryer be better?

    Yes, but you can get dryers that are about as good for less than that. I think I saw some for around 40 bucks recently. As for storage, I used to just use Ziploc gallon bags and the packet of desiccant that came with the spools, but I have since upgraded to using somewhat larger vacuum seal bags; mostly because the bags are thicker and can be reused for longer.

    The risk with the oven method is that, if things get too hot, the filament will melt a little and fuse to itself rendering it useless. Electric ovens are especially bad for doing that in my experience.

    Thank you. I see some Sunlu options that are cheaper/better rated. Good input on oven. Thanks!

  • All my 7yr old filament is 3mm, so that definitely wouldn't be worth it. That said assuming it's the diam filament you need for your printer, dry it out, see if it still has flex (i.e. isn't brittle) and if it appears good give it a try. If it's brittle, then I'd toss it in the trash, not worth dealing with the problems that you'd have with brittle filament.

  • One of the nice things about Bambu filament is the RFID tags in the spool which inform the slicer what profile to use. For an easy experience that’s pretty killer.

    I’m not saying it is the best and I do tune some non-Bambu filaments. But the ease of use does carry value. And their PLA is not expensive when you buy 4 at a time (or more)

    I actually ended up buying 4 rolls of filament with the printer. The rfid thing is really neat. I havent touched 3d printing in a solid 6 years so I am super excited to try out my wife's present!

    I spent 2 years enjoying building Vorons and a few variants. When I bought my first Bambu, I was blown away. You’ll soon see what we all mean.

  • Throw it in a dryer and send it

  • I have a roll of black PLA from 2018. The only issue is that it's more brittle than my new rolls. But that can be fixed with some hours cooking in the drier. It prints fine.

  • For PLA a good quick check is to hole it with your finger and thumb and bend it around your finger. If it breaks, toss it. It it doesn’t, dry it out and use it

  • I've had some old filament about the same age. Dry it the clip about a foot off the end where it can be more brittle. You'll know if you bend it after drying and it breaks it's may cause issues in an ams.

  • I just revived about 10 rolls that sat in a cracked tote in my basement for 4 years … worth a shot some of mine didn’t even need dried

  • I still use makergeek spools. It'll be fine.

  • It will generally be usable if not falling apart. May need some drying and you'll probably have to do a couple of test prints to calibrate it but you could pull it off.

  • I literally have a roll of makerbot transparent red that is over 10 years old, still prints great.

  • Is it worth/possible reconditioning them?

    The ones that are already to the "crumbly like dry pasta" stage are likely too far gone. You can try drying them, but if they remain brittle after drying, then they're actually chemically changed and they're trash.

  • ..mine just shattered as i tried to unroll a bit. a 3 yrs old PLA+ after 4 hrs in the dryer. maybe i should let it dries much longer..

  • I just acquired 15 year old opened PLA that was in a box. Put them all in bags with desiccant and it all seems to print fine. Haven't had any issues with any of it yet.

  • I printed off a benchy with a 7+ year old spool of silk PLA and it came out super clean. Pulled the roll straight out of the bag (no desiccant) and dried it for only about three hours.

  • Just try it. It can turn brittle so it falls apart when you try to handle it, but if it's not doing that, dry it and use it

  • I’ve recovered most of our 10 year old PLA and ABS by drying it for a few days. The only one I did not manage to recover was a spool where the PLA started to break into small pieces. TL;DR: as long as it’s not already crumbling, dry it and enjoy :)

  • Some people.... just don't understand... it's a bad idea to let go of that fillament thread end

  • I just used up the filament that came with my first printer (in 2017).

    Granted it was PLA and I live in a dry climate. Was a little brittle and I put it through a dry cycle and it's all good.

  • won't know unless you try it... prolly not unless you dry it... 6...7

  • Well how could we know? Print a benchy

  • I had a number of spools of PLA and PETG sitting around for years. Only one roll wasn't usable as it would break as it was feeding into the printer.

  • Dry it and send it.

  • I'd throw them in a dryer for a few hours and send it.

  • Just do a test print on them. If it’s prints ok. Keep using it.

  • I've had problems with old (13 years) PLA being too brittle. Biggest issue is not feeding consistently and breaking. Print would pause but still frustrating. I did dry overnight.

    PLA and I don't get along in general. I donated to my local makerspace

  • I use old filament all the time. I use it to jam my AMS, to get stuck in the tubes, oh and explode in a million segments, that’s a neat party trick. Occasionally I spend 4h drying it, 30m trying to get it to work, 10m telling my cat about how I’m not going to do it again (the cat pretends to be interested, the wife cuts me off)

  • Hell yea baby, the aging makes prints more valuable

  • My filament was 7-8 years old. Didn't dry it. Still works fine. It occasionally breaks and I have to re-feed, but surprisingly it has never broken in the middle of a print. And the prints turn out perfect.

  • I'm still using like 10 year old abs I got for free

  • Just today I finally finished the last of my "old stock" PLA. Similar age as yours, perhaps a bit older. I live in a fairly humid locale, so the stuff was really hard to work with. If I wanted to use it, the day before I would put it on a electric heating pad (the type used for seedlings) and cover it with a blanket. No idea what temp it would get to, but it was nice and toasty in there. If I didn't do that, the filament would break during the print. Best case scenario I could detach the bowden tube and pull out the remaining filament from the hotend in one pull. More often than not though it would break in there and I would have to disassemble the hotend to get everything out. Huge pain in the ass. Once I figured out the heating pad solution, I was able to fairly reliably get it to work. At that point the issue I had was if I accidentally left the filament in the printer after the print was done, by the next day I would be back to fishing out broken filament pieces from the hotend. Not fun.

    So I think the answer is yes, you can probably use it. Just prepare yourself for some hassle. As annoying as it was to deal with, I did like having a few rolls of filament that I could use for testing purposes. For example if I was printing something that I wasn't confident was going to work I would use the older filament. Or if I was having issues with the printer or hadn't used the printer in a while I would use the old filament to test things out. In the grand scheme of things, probably only saved $20-40 bucks by using that filament up. But now that it is gone, I am a little bummed that I will have to use "fresh" filament when testing things out. Feels a little more wasteful. Maybe I will see if anyone is giving away old filament on craigslist!

  • Couldnt hurt to try…

  • Dry and test it! Mostly just needs a little extra drying time

  • My oldest rolls may be about that old as they are limited filaments for me. Printed just fine,

  • I ruined a nozzle by using old filament a month ago. I had it out and undried for maybe a year and it was ok until I got toward the center of the spool then it broke and ruined the nozzle

  • I've used super old filament, but dried it for 12hrs before and had no issues. I use an old air fryer with a dehydrator fuction and its been working great for filament I've bought in 2016 which I'm now out of.

  • these filament rolls have witnessed the birth of bambulabs..

  • If it's just PLA and PETG try drying it and see what happens. The worst that can happen is broken filaments you might have to take things apart to clear.

    If it's TPU and it feels greasy/waxy to the touch, toss it right way. I mean it, don't even try, it will ruin your build plate.

  • I pulled out my ender 3v2 after a year and a half of collecting dust, leveled the bed and threw in my old dusty roll of pla+ and it printed well enough to use as a semi functional part for a camera rig.

    Give it a dry if you can, I know ams has some spots to add silica, change it frequently for long enough and you should have some dry filament. Or bake it in the oven at an extremely low temp for a few hours.

    Goodluck! And Welcome back to the old hobby

  • tengo filamento de 10 años y funciona

  • I did this with my new bambu three months ago. Tried using an open roll and two sealed ones. None of them printed properly. Trash them and enjoy a printer that just works perfectly vs the old junk you had to tinker with for hours from a decade ago.

  • I have recently been using up some at least 5 years old PLA and ABS. Tossed it in the drier and it works fine, just a bit of stringing on the PLA and a few more breaks while printing than usual. Definitely manageable though.

    I have some similarly aged TPU that I haven't tried yet, am a bit less optimistic for that.

  • I’d dry it to get better results but it should be good. Your conditions of which you stored it in will also change this as well

    Sounds like the consensus is to try dry and send it. They've been sitting just like this for a solid five years at least.

    Yea I’d do that. Doesn’t hurt and it’ll produce better results

  • It definitely need to put spools in drier for longer time. From my experience some old filament are more easy to crack. Or uneven extrusion happens.

  • I’m using 4 year old Overture in my new Bambu P2S. If it’s old, just print slow.

    Great use: GridFinity refined. The base plates take a whole lot more filament, but all this is free …

  • Worth a shot, if they aren’t too brittle you can dry it out and maybe get decent results if you’re lucky

  • Make a tree. Like a 6 foot tall one with flowers and nuts.

  • I still regularly use spools from 2018, mostly different colors of PLA I never had a use for. Prints just fine. Some of it needs a trip through the dryer first but some of it is good to go right off the shelf.

    But I also store my filament in a basement that rarely gets above 60F and 25% RH. So YMMV

  • I just printed some 1 year old ninja flex on my equally as old lulzbot. All good

  • Yes. Worse case dry it. I've used a lot of 5 year old filament (stored in the open) and most of it's great, sometimes even better than new stuff

  • I wouldn't suggest using it in your AMS, you don't want to have to dig out a short piece that's cracked inside. Otherwise, dry it and go for it.

    Takes 5 minutes to take the AMS apart and pull out a broken piece, not that big of a deal

    5 mins after you've done it a few times, first time I took my AMS apart was quite a bit more than 5mins.

    Why take a chance with very old filament that has been said to be cracking? Sure you can, but if you don't need to it's just potentially creating a problem that doesn't need to even exist.

  • Personally I would be most worried about dust collected between the strands clogging up the print head, even if it isn't brittle. Either way, I think the risk of it making lots of headaches for you (clogged print head, failed prints, etc.) is probably not worth the money you might or might not save. I would toss it.