I kinda don't like people who are too confident. They tend to annoy me. Especially if that confidence isn't justified. Like, imagine an ugly confident person. Really uncomfortable. Or someone really confident and extraverted next to you on a sevsral hour trip when you're just tired and hating the world and they are trying to make conversation all the time
u/EmperrorNombrero, there weren't enough votes to determine the quality of your post...
You clearly don’t understand wat confidence is. Theres no reason why a conventionally unattractive person can’t be confident in themselves or their appearance. Thinking ugly people don’t have a right or reason to be confident is insane.
This.
Tue older people get the more they lose their shame and it's a really bad thing.
Uh no. There are plenty of well adjusted young people who are confident in themselves despite not being the most cute or attractive person in the room. Age has nothing to do with confidence. You’re proving that you don’t understand what confidence is and that you have none. If you feel ashamed of your body, then that’s a you problem. It’s not normal to feel shame based on your appearance.
See, that's the problem. IT SHOULD BE. So many people are so unfuckable. It's fucking depressing.
Like, I feel fucking disgust for so many people. Not being ashamed if you're stuck in that body just seems foolish, ignorant even. Even kinda ridiculous. I loose all respect of you if you look like that and don't do everything to try to change that or at leadt become just really mentally pained about it all the time.
It's weird that you believe that your opinion of whether someone is fuckable should determine their confidence
I mean now most old ugly people just find other old, ugly people to date and do some mental gymnastics to not feel like that's pathetic. Like, not being hot to hot people just robs something so fundamental from life. Like This shit is boring and meaningless without that. Everything else is just so disgusting. It's the stuff you perform and talk about and so on to make yourself be more attractive and fuckable but it doesn't matter on it's own
You don't understand. Attractiveness is subjective. Just because you think someone is ugly, does not mean they are ugly. Who are you?
It's not tho. It’s mostly objective with a small subjective part and everyone seeming more attractive the more desperate you are. But people tend to settle for way, way less than the archetype of person they are actually most attracted to. And it's just so fucking sad and pathetic. And the worst thing is that we all get older and loose out on more and more chances to fuck people that are REALLY hot to us. And then just have to watch other peoole who are still younger than us being still in the game. And then you need to hang out with the old, ugly people who are completely repulsive and boring instead.
With this attitude you seem like the most unfuckable person on the planet regardless of your physical appearance.
Life is not all about what you look like and im sorry your reality is so bogged down by physical appearance that you feel the need to project your personal shame onto everyone else. Someone clearly didnt show you enough love growing up and im sorry about that.
I like the way the vast majority of people look. Conventionally "hot" people are cool but if we all looked like that, it would be boring. Give me the people with funky facial features; give me the memorable shapes and things i can really attribute to a person and say "gosh i love his nose. How cool is he?"
If everyone looked like chris hemsworth, shit would be boring
Chris hemsworth is kinda mid looking. Like, dude is old. Conventionally attractive would mean way more youthful vibrant skin, and more even, more chiseled, slimer facial features, better hairline and bair density etc. Like, he is what I would call just attractive enough to be attractive to some people with the shapes and whatever you talked about but still kinda not that good looking. Like, you don't look at him and think to yourself "WOW". It’s just some abover average looking middle aged dude.
LMAO
As you get older everyone is uglier and more confident and appearance is the last thing by far anyone cares about as far as confidence goes
See that's the problem. Appearance is what everyone sees about you first. You can lie about your job, your relationships, your experiences, your skills, your education, everything in your life. You can't lie about your exterior.
Make-up, and various shape changing clothing would like to have a huge word with you
Ignoring the fact that you actually can do a lot of smoke and mirrors to your appearance, so what? Like why would I care if someone is ugly or not? What does this have to do with my life or relation to them?
90% of people are not likeable to me if I don’t want to fuck them. Hanging out with them is more of a chore. It's also always a scary af, horrifying reminder what happens to your body when you let yourself go, age, get unlucky, make misstakes etc. So that person becomes just kind of a living bummer.
You want to fuck your mom, kids, grandfather, pastor, and boss?
I don't have kids, my grandfather and mom are nice people (especially my mom, I wish nothing but the best for her) but most of the time I don't enjoy spending time with them , I don't go to church and am in-between jobs rn but If my boss or pastor was an attractive woman I wouldn't have anything against fucking them because of that role.
So you think hot people are going to fall all over you when you don’t even have a job? Lmao.
After the age of like 22 financial stability becomes the new hot. If you can’t relate to a boss or coworkers aside from trying to have sex with them and you don’t have a significant amount of money flowing from your lukewarm relationships with older family members, you probably won’t ever attain that.
Nope, hot is biological. You literally get turned on by it. Pretty directly and straightforwardly.having a good job might boost you a bit for longer time things or make people respect you more which can indirectly make you a bit more attractive to people who know you closer. But hot will always stay hot. It's the most direct, most powerful way of making people sexually attracted to you.
Yes other things can play a role in certain situations, but attractive looks are the centre piece. At every age.
… when you are looking for a sex partner. Which for most of us is a minuscule amount of time in the grand scheme of life. Then after an average of 18 months, your body stops making attachment hormones based on the way the other person looks (and more importantly how they smell) and you have to rely on the relationship you built to be happy with each other. And it’s hard to build a lasting attachment to someone who is perpetually broke, shallow, and openly insecure, no matter what they look like.
Since most people only have one sex partner at a time, what everyone else looks like means nothing at any other time. I’m not horny when I’m hanging out with my friends, at work, hanging out with my son, etc. and if you are, that’s a deficiency in you specifically. You should age out of wanting to be horny all the time before you’re old enough to drive.
It's actually the other way around being horny all the time is agood sign of health if you're not and you are below the age where huge hormonal shifts happen (menopause for women, and just drastically sinking testosterone leveles for men that on average come around the same age) that is a sign that you either don't work out enough, son't sleep enough, suffer from depression are deficient in some nutrient (often magnesium, Omega 3S or a bit more rarely Zinc in a western diet, Iron or B12 if you eat vegetarian, Vitamin D if tou live in the northern hemisphere, it's qinter, and you don't eat tons of fatty fish etc. Etc.) Etc. And yes, most people have a really shitty lifestyle, so their health breaks more and more every year. So I don't doubt that a lot of people are really not horny all the time. But it's really just a testiment to how broken they are physically.
18 months already is A LOONG time imo. When.I'm thinking long term partner I'm.thinking maybe for a year or so with meeting her like 3 times a week or so. I'm also open for more short term things tho.
Like, I'm not primarily searching for a wife forever or anything 😭😭. I'm in my 20s man.
It doesn't seem like you know what confidence is. Confident people aren't talkative or extroverted by default.
Also first, who are you to decide who has the right to be confident and who doesn't? Just because you think someone is ugly they should have low self-esteem and insecurity? Like wtf?
And second, confidence isn't just about looks. Just because they might not be the most conventionally attractive doesn't mean they have no reason to be confident and proud of themselves
I don't understand why someone being "ugly" with a high confidence would be a problem. The only time when I'm against someone being happy and proud with themselves is when they go out of their way to put down others with the exact same achievements.
Happiness isn't desireable. Being horny af and in a state of bittersweet emotions, like, immense pain beczuse kf rhe imperfection of everything and immense hope because of how great things could be without that imperfection, feels way better than just being happy.
Like, massive bittersweet pain with occasional feelings of achievement and massive orgasms in-between is what life should be like. Judt constant happiness would be boring af and also feel kinda childish.
The struggle itself is what makes life fun and meaningful in a way. It just gotta be a victorious struggle. I genuinely like psychological suffering as long as it breeds material world improvements.
Just looking at your history, you come off way more confident here than you seem in your history of posts. They all scream insecurity. Nothing wrong with being insecure really because we all have insecurity. Are you compensating with looks what you feel like you miss intellectually? If you feel... Not so smart, why would you think your opinion holds any value in this discussion? You have a very limited and immature view of what "confidence" is. You actually come off extremely insecure than anything else. If you think people shouldn't be confident because of the way you look, then again you put more importance on looks. That's something not very smart people do lol.
Confidence is always positive. Arrogance on the other hand isn't. You come off arrogant here, not confident.
It's the exact opposite, actually. I grew up as the "gifted kid." I've literally never studied or did homework throughout school and still passed everything without problems. My confidence in my intellectual abilities is completely unshakeable and always was. I'm insecure af about my looks and the seeming inevitability of aging (even tho that one could change with technological progress)
Thank you. I disagree confidence is foolish. Arrogance, on the other hand, can have kind of a cool vibe in a troubled antihero kind of way, which is what I'm going for anyway.
I actually think that's cope from "smart people."
I am sctually extremely disgusted and dismayed by people who think themselves as smart but follow very rigid thought systems based on what is popular in "their circles" like this. I think people who think themselves to be smart (let's be real it's more "educated people" than actually hyper intelligent people) tend to believe in such things exactly because of arrogance and misseplaced confidence.
Like, you could be the smartest person in the world, and it wilk still not necessarily get you laid. But even being just alright in the looks department will. Like, sure, you could have different goals like money or academic success , but it's just not so something that brings real satisfaction to me or anyone I really respect. I'm a horny af person, I love the dynamics of everything interpersonel as well. More cognitive pursuits for the sake of those more cognitive pursuits (or even worse, for a secure income and a family) just seem like running away from the real world to me. Replacing the adventure life could be with something way worse and more pathetic, exchanging living a life for thinking about it. It's something that I was raised to do. All my relatives have academic degrees, they're all very risk avoidant, conformist, they're the typical pencil pushers, mid level bureaucrats, teachers, engineers in a western country with bad looks, boring jobs, unnatractive partners, boring sex life's, obsessions with designing your life around the "nuclear family", and stunted social lifes. I want to escape that misserable existence by any means necessary. I want to devot my life to become as hot as possible and fuck good looking and crazy nympho bitches that are on average 5 years younger than me. This is my villain origin arc Basically. In very oversimplified.
Also I haven't slept in like 48 hours so you're lucky to witness my raw unfiltered thoughts rn with all the filters of making things more socially acceptable and "sane" (in the eyes of mainstream society which are a bunch of pathetic, boring and ugly losers imo) just down due to sleep deprivation.
It sounds like you have a severe lack of confidence and are kind of like, projecting. Just because you think someone is ugly, they shouldn't have confidence? That's whack.
No nobody should have a large amount of confidence. Like, bobody should be self assured. Evertone should be really fucking insecure and scared about not being enough. That extreme gives you people who take a lot of care of themselves, their exterior, and not being a cunt. Thry don't take up too much space, they leave you alone once they understand you don't like their company etc.
Like, why tf do you think so many leople have some story about their family meetings like christmas or thanksgiving being really fucking unoleasant ? It's hecause old people loose their shame and their care about firting in, being great to be around, a nice sight etc. They loose all that and start behaving like people you really don't want to be around.
People being kinda shy is one of the cutest things, people just talking about everything they want to talk about and not getting or even stopping to care or to control how they look to others can make them so unpleasant tho.
Like "be yourself" is the dumbest shit. No, be better, do everything to be better than yourself. Most of y'all fucking suck. And the worse yhe older y'all get as well. Like, why do you thi k teenagers who are the most insecure people are so good in finding so many new contacts all the time ? Like, they go to school make friends there, go to a sports club make friends there, go to party get laid there etc. And why do you think old people are usually just around their families ? It’s because teenagers do everyrhing to make themselves likeable and if they can't they keep themselves in the backround or try to prove themselves. Meanwhile old people don't care and they're the loneliest demographic. Only their families or people they've known for decades stilk are around them and usually more out of a feeling of responsibility and not genuinely wanting that
Confidence is a mere feature of the people you are talking about
Some of the things you said are really stupid though
This isn’t even 10th dentist, it’s just a shit take.
Not going to touch on the "confident ugly person" but you seem to have a misunderstanding between confidence and arrogance. They're very different but can seem similar if you aren't too familiar
No I actually kinda like arrogance sometimes. Arrogance masking insecurity can be kinda cute and relatable. Genuine confidence can't
This has to be rage bait
I agree with the title but your example is ass
I know I thought I was gonna open this and it was gonna be about confidence bs arrogance but it's actually about an insecure person pissed off that everyone else doesn't hate themselves the way they do.
I don't hate myself.I hate my flaws Just as I hate other peoples. flaws and am pissed of that others have such low standards for themselves that they don't hate their flaws the smar way I do.
That's not "the smart way". It's okay to have imperfections. Some imperfections are beautiful, even. It's what makes us human. People should all learn to love themselves. That doesn't mean "never do any self improvement" but I would argue that loving yourself and being gentle with yourself makes you more likely to work on yourself and grow in a healthy way where as self loathing produces terrible results in a myriad of different directions.
I don't mind confidence if it is backed up by ability. But, if not...